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    Mamiya 646 Pro TL worthwhile upgrade

    I currently have a 645 Super, I have the opportunity to purchase a mint 645 Pro TL. What I am wondering is, is it a big enough upgrade to justify the expenditure?
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    It will be newer. Repair parts may be more easily found.

    It will offer TTl flash operation with certain flashes.

    For those accessories which are not compatible with both the Super and Pro bodies, it will work with the newer Pro compatible accessories - primarily metering viewfinders.

    Possibly most importantly, it will include the mechanical upgrades that were made because of some film wind reliability issues experienced with the older Super bodies. As I understand it, those reliability issues were most often experienced by those using a motor winder on the Super.
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    Unless you want/need TTL flash capability, no. No winder or any other issues with my Super. My only beef with Mamiya winders is the racket they produce--noisy suckers!

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    Probably not... I went from 645Super to 645Pro. It's newer. It's more updated. I hear internals are made more robust. I didn't find any functional difference in my usage. (before my super went kaput)
    Develop, stop, fix.... wait.... where's my film?

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    Initially I would have said no..............but then my Super took a dump on me (just as Matt said above, I was using a motor winder...)

    So I bought a Pro TL and I'm happy with it. How much difference is the price for which you can buy the Pro TL and sell your Super?
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    After selling the Super, I may be a couple hundred down on the Pro... I'm not totally convinced it's the way to go,, might wait a while for an AFD instead.
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    for comparing funtions and compatibility of accessoires you can have a look in my Mamiya data collection (see signature)

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    I'd say that it would be a worthwhile switch from an M645, for the exchangeable backs. But I wouldn't switch from a Super unless I was using a motor drive all the time. The Pro TL is a bit more robust in that regard.

    I've never used in-camera flash metering in my life in a real shooting situation (as opposed to just testing), and I don't see it as an advantage. I don't like in-camera meters even with ambient light, but make flash the light source (especially on-camera flash) and results are even more likely to be less than ideal. (Is that the same thing as being less likely to be ideal? ) YMMV, however.
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    I think it's funny that every time this discussion comes up of "is the TL better than the rest" that no one brings up mirror lock up! I bought the pro TL over the pro and super because of the mirror lock up. With the prices being so low on all these cameras now it makes no sense not to go with the newest one.

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    Um.... My PRO has a Mirror UP knob. Is TL different in this regard?
    Develop, stop, fix.... wait.... where's my film?

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