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    Second-best Wide Angle (35-45mm) MF Lens

    Hi, I'm new here. After some experience with 35mm analog photography many years ago, and a more recent dalliance with DSLRs, I've decided to return to analog, but with medium format. I'm predominanty a landscape / cityscape photographer, and prefer wide angles - almost all my "serious" photography, excluding portraiture, is done use focal lengths in the 15-35mm range (135 equivalent). It makes sense to me to choose a system based largely on the quality of the wide-angle lens/es.

    The most common use of these lenses, for me, will be tripod mounted, with mirror lock-up and remote or timed release, at apertures f/11 to f/22, and with focus anything from a few yards away to the hyperfocal distance. In terms of lens characteristics, I'm looking for edge-to edge sharpness and good contrast with not too much vignetting under these conditions (but wide open performance, although nice, is less critical). Colour correction is not important as I will be shooting B&W only, typically with some colour filtration. I've acquired an Opimus 5a enlarger, which goes to a max size of 6 x 6, so I'm looking for the second-best 30-45mm wide angle lens for the 645 or 6x6 formats.

    (Tilt would be excellent but the only one I'm aware of is the Schneider 55mm PCS lens for the Bronica E series which I don't think I could afford. I know of Mamiya's 50mm shift lens, but not sure that shift without tilt is of great interest to me as I don't do much architectural photography.)

    Why second-best? Well I've done a fair amount of research into the Hasselblad V / Mamiya 645 / Bronica E and PS systems and think it likely that the Zeiss/Hasselblad 40/4 CF T* FLE may be the best available, but I have limited funds and there's no way I can afford it (the pre-FLE Hassy 40/4 may be an option though). My budget is US$ 500-1000 for a camera, viewfinder, back etc and wide angle lens all in good (but not mint) condition. Other lenses can come later. Good condition is important because it will be very difficult to get an MF camera properly serviced in South Africa, and sending it back to the US/Europe for repair or replacement would be prohibitively expensive.

    Thanks for your help!
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    http://www.kievusa.com/

    Look at the 45mm

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    Why not get a medium-format view camera like one of the flatbed technical cameras Horseman made? Arca Swiss also made a monorail camera. If you go to a 4x5 view camera, you can use roll-film backs up to 6x12 and 6x17 with a special ground glass (and even 4x5). Then you will have all the movements you can use

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikari View Post
    Why not get a medium-format view camera like one of the flatbed technical cameras Horseman made?
    Widest practical lens there is the 65mm. This is no substitute for the 40mm Distagon.

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    I love my 50mm for my RB67!

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    Best sleeper wides out there for an SLR are the 40mm/4.0 and 50mm/2.8 Nikkors for the classic Bronica system (S/S2/S2a/C, EC/EC-TL). These cameras were designed around wide lenses with a falling mirror on the earlier cameras and a split mirror on the later cameras (but not on the more modern SQ or ETRS systems), so the lens could protrude into the mirror box, requiring less retrofocus correction than SLRs with a traditional mirror that flips up.
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    Bronica sq-a with 50mm? In the UK they can be had for under £300.

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    Well, judging by the reviews I've seen, I suspect that the very best MF wide is the mamiya 28mm f/4.5 But alas it's way outside most of our budgets.

    For really wide on a budget, you might take a look at the arsat 30mm f/4.5, if you can find one.

    My personal favourite wide SLR lens is the 65mm for the RB, which I typically use on a 6x8 back. I suspect that you could get that and an RB body within your budget. There is a decent 50mm as well, but in my opinion, the RB version isn't as good as the much more expensive RZ uld one. Opinions (and samples) vary.
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    Thanks for all the excellent suggestions so far.

    @ic-racer - Good idea, I hadn't considered the Russian lenses. I'll take a closer look at them.
    @Hikari - Good suggestion, but not sure I'm quite ready for a view camera. I'm still getting used to the thought of roll film, let along sheet... Yes I know one can use a roll film back, but if I'm going to cart a 4x5 around, I may as well benefit from 4x5 negs!
    @Jeff - I have looked longingly at the RB/RZ. Still do. Just not sure the additional weight will be justified in a field camera if I only shoot 6x6.
    @David - Thanks, I didn't know that. Sounds great, will look into it.
    @Paul - Yes, that's how my current thinking is going, although perhaps with the 40 PS lens.
    @Keith - Thanks, I had a look at the review of the Arsat but the pronounced barrel distortion / fisheye rules it out for me. I'll be printing directly from film so won't be able to apply the computerised corrections they use in the review. RZ very appealing.

    Thanks for all the contributions and please keep the suggestions coming.

    Andrew

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    Your up-to-$1000 budget is enough for an RZ with the 50mm ULD, an incredible lens, AND a used 6x7 enlarger. That's probably your best bet.

    I hear the Pentax 67 45mm lens is great too.

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