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    Quote Originally Posted by brucemuir View Post
    Hey guys,
    they have a ninja star version for 599 on KEH so I'm debating if I should go an extra 100.00 for an MM. (just under 700)

    I was watching these on eBay and in the low 600's seems what they were going for on average.
    I never knew the MM version had a different aperture shape for f/2? i thought the only real difference of the AE to MM lenses was the ability to use in shutter priority mode....
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    I was researching it on FM alt forums and it appears that some early MM had jagged aperture but the later MM's went to more rounded aperture blades.

    There was some examples posted from various members showing the aperture.

    Now to find out when the change occurred exactly but I'm thinking I may be making too much of the issue.

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    here's the thread about the change
    http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/615546

    One knowledgeable dude on the thread is saying there was a slight optical formula difference in the later MM version as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucemuir View Post
    I was researching it on FM alt forums and it appears that some early MM had jagged aperture but the later MM's went to more rounded aperture blades.

    There was some examples posted from various members showing the aperture.

    Now to find out when the change occurred exactly but I'm thinking I may be making too much of the issue.
    Looking at your website and the people shots I'd say you should go for the MM version without the ninja star if you can. How often would it be an issue? Hard to say but it could ruin a shot (though nothing PS could not take care of? GASP! Did I just say that?) Maybe not much but always watching out for specular highlights and watching out for f/2 would be too distracting and bothersome I think. Unless you think you can just keep it to wide open in such instances then you'd be fine. Otherwise the extra $100 or so might be worth it.
    Last edited by Richard Sintchak (rich815); 04-10-2012 at 06:57 PM. Click to view previous post history.
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    Rich, you are probably right but 599 sounds better than 699
    I don't want to be PSing out those jagged edges tho and I do prefer shooting on location when the issue may show up.

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    BTW what's the top shutter speed on the 139? Shooting wide open in even semi-bright conditions will need a pretty slow film or 1/2000th or faster at least...
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    I'll be using a 159mm (1/4000) and a 5D1 via adapter

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    Holy crap! Just scanned my first roll shot with the 180/2.8 Sonnar! Another amazingly sharp lens from Zeiss. I'll try to post forward some examples soon. The 135/2.8 is calling me.....
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    The 135 is not bad, but it's not in the same league as the 180. The 180 is legendary, like the 85 1.4 .

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    I have nothing wider than the 50 planar so will need to be investigating one in the future.
    What are your guys favorites?
    The 28 f/2 looks interesting but may be too steep to justify.

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