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    Quote Originally Posted by E. von Hoegh View Post
    What about Mirandas? I have one I've never used, and everyone says it's crap.
    I use Miranda MS-3 as my disposable SLR. Out in the rain, snow, sand. Has not failed yet.
    Although I guess the common with 'original' Miranda is only the name. Mine is plastic-bodied K-mount with metal shutter, aperture-priority with pretty good metering and bright viewfinder.

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    Canon A-1/AV-1/AE-1/AE-1P. They all have that godawful shutter squeal that's the social equivalent of farting every time you trip the shutter.
    The camera is the most incidental element of photography.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yashinoff View Post
    That's odd because Exaktas tend to be very robust. With the exception of the clockwork for the slow speeds and self timer, they're very simple cameras. On the other hand the last ones, the VX1000 - the quality was really bad. The 1950s Exaktas are made about as well as anything, but by the 1960s Exakta apparently was competing on price instead of features. I think the VX1000 I had may have been the shoddiest SLR I've ever laid hands on. At that point I think there may have been a lack of pride or interest in the product as Exakta was enduring a lot of legal troubles with the copyright holders in West Germany.
    IIRC, my father had a Varex IIa (1950's)which was fine, then three IIb's (mid-1960's) all of which had shutter bounce on the 1/500 and 1/1000 speeds, and none of which were ever totally cured. Plus a couple of Pancolor lenses which were fuzzy at full aperture.

    As you say, probably competition on price and loss of pride....I believe that, by that time, the semi-independent Ihagee works had been absorbed into the state-run Pentacon enterprise (perhaps with no option?). Again, IIRC, the UK distribution had passed through several different companies, so maybe poor back-up for warranties and repairs.

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    I still have a full set of Topcon Uni gear. What's not to like about a leaf shutter that sync at all speeds with flash?
    "There are a great many things I am in doubt about at the moment, and I should consider myself favoured if you would kindly enlighten me. Signed, Doubtful, off to Canada." (BJP 1914).

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    cowanw: Certainly that sync speed is to be desired, up to, what, 1/500? Great. But it is telling, indeed, that so few manufacturers wanted the leaf shutter and all its troubles. The curtain was far simpler and less prone to problems. Get a tiny bit of oil into that leaf mechanism and you would see what I mean.

    Diverting just a mite: I ask all: has it ever been definitively determined as to what is better for a curtain, cloth or metal? Perhaps the hybrid, titanium on the Nikon F2, was the very best? Comments? I know that it it tempting to say the metal was best but what about Leica RF? - David Lyga
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    Quote Originally Posted by E. von Hoegh View Post
    What about Mirandas? I have one I've never used, and everyone says it's crap.
    My father used one for many years without a single hiccup. He took the attached photograph of his grandfather in 1963, which we printed on Ilford MG Art 300 together last year, and that same camera still works beautifully. I'm sure there are Miranda cameras that don't work well, but perhaps they haven't been looked after properly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson View Post
    My father used one for many years without a single hiccup. He took the attached photograph of his grandfather in 1963, which we printed on Ilford MG Art 300 together last year, and that same camera still works beautifully. I'm sure there are Miranda cameras that don't work well, but perhaps they haven't been looked after properly?
    That's a great photo of your great granddad.

    Well, my Miranda is in good cosmetic condition and everything functions well. I see lenses going as cheap as $15 - $40 for the common ones, I plan to get a 35 or 50mm lens and use it a bit. Also, it seems I can get or make an adapter to use my Nikkors on it.......

    Sometimes I think I could start my very own cargo cult.
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    The Miranda I bought new in 1967 developed several problems within months, so I switched to Nikon. However, its Soligar lenses performed well. A couple of Mirandas later bought because they were very cheap also had problems. Nikkormats have served me well. The Nikkorex F was awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by okto View Post
    Canon A-1/AV-1/AE-1/AE-1P. They all have that godawful shutter squeal that's the social equivalent of farting every time you trip the shutter.
    I have a A-1 and the squeal dosen't bother me. I could have some wax buildup in my ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by okto View Post
    Canon A-1/AV-1/AE-1/AE-1P. They all have that godawful shutter squeal that's the social equivalent of farting every time you trip the shutter.
    I suffered from this squeak for 30 years (litteraly) but finally decided to give a cla to my first real camera. It's so silent now that I came to use the AE1P much more now
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