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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    Has any manufacturer made a film camera with shutter counter.. that would make a better indicator of the state of a used camera than going by the state of the outer shell.
    I believe camera like the Nikon F5, F100 and F6 do have the shutter counter but can not be read by the user but only Nikon service facility.

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    How about MLU (mirror lock up). This was a feature that if it were introduced in the first model, was usually omitted in the following models. Sure, MLU was a feature they reserved for their top models but they even omitted this in their top models as in the examples listed below:
    1. Olympus OM1 had it then omitted in the OM2
    2. Canon F-1 had it then omitted in the New F-1
    3. Minolta SRT-101 had it carried over to the SRT-102 but was omitted in the later production versions

    I suppose you can say the Pentax KX had it but was omitted in the MX but they are two different series.

    Were there other examples?

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    There were a few SR-1 versions and the SR-1e version I have does not have MLU. According to the Rokkor Files SR series only the SR-1V - the last version, had it and it was required in order to use the 21mm lens.
    Finally, a mirror lock up was added, enabling users to utilise the 21mm super wide angle introduced by the company in 1962.

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    Extending the film advance lever to activate the meter with half press of the shutter. I suppose the thought process was that this would prevent battery drain when a camera is in a bag and something may contact the shutter accidentally. Of course this method tends to poke into the eyes of those who are left eyed. A more clever implementation can be found in the Pentax MX and LX (possible others too?) that have a shutter lock to prevent accidental activation of the meter or shutter. Also, the meter can be activated and the shutter can be fired without the film advance sticking out.

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    Minolta invented the Senswitch for the Minolta XM (X-1, XK).
    I personally think that was brilliant.
    http://www.rokkorfiles.com/XK.html

    The X-700 and the XG series have a not less brilliant feature: a surface on the shutter release senses the conductivity of the finger and turns the light meter on. So the light meter stays on when your finger is on the shutter release and stays off (after 20 seconds or so) when you take your finger out of the shutter release.
    The result is the same as the Senswitch: you can walk for hours keeping the light meter "on" so that you have it immediately ready but without wasting the energy during most of the time, when you actually just "walk".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diapositivo View Post
    Minolta invented the Senswitch for the Minolta XM (X-1, XK).
    I personally think that was brilliant.
    http://www.rokkorfiles.com/XK.html

    The X-700 and the XG series have a not less brilliant feature: a surface on the shutter release senses the conductivity of the finger and turns the light meter on. So the light meter stays on when your finger is on the shutter release and stays off (after 20 seconds or so) when you take your finger out of the shutter release.
    The result is the same as the Senswitch: you can walk for hours keeping the light meter "on" so that you have it immediately ready but without wasting the energy during most of the time, when you actually just "walk".
    Sounds like a wonderful idea! Does it work with gloved hands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRHazelton View Post
    Sounds like a wonderful idea! Does it work with gloved hands?
    No, and it doesn't work with hands which are too thoroughly cleaned with soap.
    It works with normal hands normally dirty though

    The XM device, on the other hand, works with gloves as well.
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    Hmmm..."Stupid things Camera Companies leave out".

    You know, I don't really mind if they leave out the stupid things...
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Perhaps the thread should have been titled "Things Stupid Camera Companies Leave Out"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lxdude View Post
    Hmmm..."Stupid things Camera Companies leave out".

    You know, I don't really mind if they leave out the stupid things...
    Likewise, that's what prevents a camera from coming with a threatening textbook of a manual.



 

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