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    How old is my Nikon F ?? (Looking for Feb. 67 for a small project)

    Hi,
    I have a chrome Nikon F with serial number 6843981.
    According to this site http://www.destoutz.ch/typ_production_data_f.html my camera was built in AUG 1967 to OCT 1967.
    However, all the ranges on this site are overlapping, what seems strange to me. For instance:
    679xxxx DEC 1966 to MAR 1967
    680xxxx FEB 1967 to APR 1967
    681xxxx APR 1967 to JUN 1967
    682xxxx MAY 1967 to AUG 1967
    683xxxx JUL 1967 to SEP 1967
    684xxxx AUG 1967 to OCT 1967
    685xxxx OCT 1967 to DEC 1967
    It seems unlikely that Nikon used two series of numbers at the same time? Like 682xxxx in August and 683xxxx in July?

    The reason for my question is that I would like to have & use a Nikon F that is as old as I am (Feb. 14th. 1967). It doesn't have to be a
    perfect one, as long as it is in good working order. Preferably with a single lens (like a 35 mm) from the same period. I want to shoot a project with it: I want to make a series of my life (the first 46 years) with this camera on Tri-X film. One camera, one lens and one (type of) film.

    My camera seams to be from the right year, not the right month. :-(
    And mine is with a sports finder. I would also like a working Nikon F Photomic Tn (from 1967.) Are these still around & working, without having to sell an arm and a leg? If not, just a regular prism and I'll use my lightmeter.
    This is what it would look like:
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    (source: http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography...meterprism.htm)

    I haven't checked my old lenses yet, but I'm guessing they aren't from the right era as well. Does anyone know a site to date my lenses?

    Thanks for the help!!
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    Bert, I think it is entirely possible that there could have been late 679 and early 680 serial numbers being produced at the same time. I would think that if you got a 6799xxx or 6800xxx you can reasonably expect it was made right around February 1967.

    I can't help you with lens dates.

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    There was a story that Nikon F's and F2's serial number corresponded with the date of manufacture, but I have it on good authority that this was not always the case. (From a Nikon engineer) so getting one that corresponds with your date may be a bit of luck and guestimate to get it right'

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    Hi Nick,
    A late 6799XXX or an early 6800xxx seams a logical guestimation to start with.
    Hi BM,
    I heard this story also, but I heard (too) much prove otherwise.
    Bert
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    Are you going to use Tri-X from Feb 1967 too? Of course not. :-)

    What you have really is close enough I think, especially since there's nothing that says that website is to 100% correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rich815 View Post
    Are you going to use Tri-X from Feb 1967 too? Of course not. :-)
    I don't think I'd be the least surprised if someone here chimed in that they had a couple rolls of exactly that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by semi-ambivalent View Post
    I don't think I'd be the least surprised if someone here chimed in that they had a couple rolls of exactly that.

    s-a
    Hey no kidding! One groggy morning I woke up and glanced at my email on my iPad. There in my saved eBay searche email alerts was a bulk roll of Ilford HP3 with the can dated JULY 1963 stamped in big letters and numbers. THAT is my exact year and date of birth. It had a BIN for only about $30 so I nailed it. I've actually loaded some up and have been shooting it. I do have to rate it at about ASA 12 and it's fogged and grainy as can be but it has a very interesting look and I've done nice portraits with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rich815 View Post
    ...it's fogged...but it has a very interesting look...
    Exact there too, perhaps?

    '54 for me; introduction of both Tri-X and Leica's M3. I have a '59 M3 but suspect the Tri-X is well out of reach, alas. But, better than Kodachrome (1939?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich815 View Post
    Are you going to use Tri-X from Feb 1967 too? Of course not. :-)
    What you have really is close enough I think, especially since there's nothing that says that website is to 100% correct.
    Hi Rich,
    You might be right in the end about the camera. But I would still like to at least replace the sports finder with a normal prisma finder or even the
    F Photomic Tn.
    About the Tri-X: I still have some of the old Tri-X (from before the big change in 2004?) but I don't think it's the same as in 1967? Still, it is Tri-X
    and I used Tri-X mostly all these years.

    BUT: I do have an original box with 12 unused HP3 glass plates (9x13 cm = 3 1/2 x 4 3/4 inch).
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    Probaly from the 50's of 60's? See: http://www.photomemorabilia.co.uk/Il...hronology.html
    How about that?
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    "Have fun and catch that light beam!"
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    * My favorite cameras: Hasselblad SWC, Leica SL, Leica M7, Russian FKD 18x24, Bronica SQ-B and RF645, Rolleiflex T2, Nikon F4s, Agfa Clack and my pinhole cameras

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheToadMen View Post
    Hi,
    I have a chrome Nikon F with serial number 6843981.
    According to this site http://www.destoutz.ch/typ_production_data_f.html my camera was built in AUG 1967 to OCT 1967.
    However, all the ranges on this site are overlapping, what seems strange to me. For instance:
    679xxxx DEC 1966 to MAR 1967
    680xxxx FEB 1967 to APR 1967
    681xxxx APR 1967 to JUN 1967
    682xxxx MAY 1967 to AUG 1967
    683xxxx JUL 1967 to SEP 1967
    684xxxx AUG 1967 to OCT 1967
    685xxxx OCT 1967 to DEC 1967
    It seems unlikely that Nikon used two series of numbers at the same time? Like 682xxxx in August and 683xxxx in July?

    The reason for my question is that I would like to have & use a Nikon F that is as old as I am (Feb. 14th. 1967). It doesn't have to be a
    perfect one, as long as it is in good working order. Preferably with a single lens (like a 35 mm) from the same period. I want to shoot a project with it: I want to make a series of my life (the first 46 years) with this camera on Tri-X film. One camera, one lens and one (type of) film.

    My camera seams to be from the right year, not the right month. :-(
    And mine is with a sports finder. I would also like a working Nikon F Photomic Tn (from 1967.) Are these still around & working, without having to sell an arm and a leg? If not, just a regular prism and I'll use my lightmeter.
    This is what it would look like:
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	nikon1967fphtomictn.jpg 
Views:	13 
Size:	19.9 KB 
ID:	64769
    (source: http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography...meterprism.htm)

    I haven't checked my old lenses yet, but I'm guessing they aren't from the right era as well. Does anyone know a site to date my lenses?

    Thanks for the help!!
    It was explained to me that the over lap was due to serial number range being assigned to a production run, Its entirely possible to start a new batch while the previous batch was being finished.

    lens serial data

    http://www.photosynthesis.co.nz/nikon/serialno.html
    APUG: F, F/FTN,F2,F2A,F2AS,F3,F3HP,FA,FE,FM,FM2,FE2,XK,XM,XD, XD-5,XD-7,XD-11,XE,XE-5,XE-7,SRT101,SRT102,XG9,XG7,XG1,XG-SE,XG-M,X700,OM-1,OM-1n,OM-2,OM-2n,OM-4,F-1,F-1N,AE-1P,R5,500C/M,SCII
    DPUG:D100,D200,D300

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