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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    I can't tell if you're being facetious or not...
    Oh Stone, Stone, Stone.
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    He is young and has much to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    I can't tell if you're being facetious or not...


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    I think Stone may be spending too much time around models
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    I think Stone may be spending too much time around models
    Haha it's true... I have... They are all so young and it might be getting to me...


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    sounds like a picture of a brick wall might be in order... to determine if the film gate is out of wack with the viewfinder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mporter012 View Post
    Yes, this is kinda what I thought. Maybe others can speak to why a level necessarily corrects the issue?

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    It doesn't neccesarily correct the issue, especially if it isn't calibrated to the filmplane.But a lot of folks seem to think it's magical! By this I mean the bubble being centered when the filmplane is perfectly vertical and level left to right. If you are photographing a building (for instance) which is perfectly plumb, level, and rectilinear, just true the filmplane with your level. But what if the buliding isn't perfectly plumb? This is where the gridlines save you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E. von Hoegh View Post
    But what if the buliding isn't perfectly plumb?
    This is just one example of the many places a level will lead one astray.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markbarendt View Post
    This is just one example of the many places a level will lead one astray.
    I rest my case.

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    Unless one is doing science there comes a point where being correct doesn't necessarily make the best picture. That's where art comes in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erikg View Post
    Unless one is doing science there comes a point where being correct doesn't necessarily make the best picture. That's where art comes in.
    That's why I've been suggesting that the OP find somebody with a view camera and go play.

    One truly fun aha moment I had was when I figured out I could, in the right scene, skew the perception of how tall a mountain looks and make a more interesting print by manipulating the tilt (front to back pitch) of the back to get an effect similar to what a painter like Georgia O'Keefe could get and still get a visually level horizon by manipulating the tilt of the film right or left (roll).

    With a bit of experience using a LF camera and then seeing some of O'Keefe's paintings that were next to her own photos of the same scene it suddenly clicked for me and opened a whole new set of opportunities. One where level by the bubble isn't even relevant.
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