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    Quote Originally Posted by SchwinnParamount View Post
    "... Thanks for that, Martin (wet blanket... oh, did I say that out loud?). And now, back to our regular programming..."
    LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SchwinnParamount View Post
    Canon, I love you. Nikon, I love you for your lenses.
    Canon 'L' lenses are quite worthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E. von Hoegh View Post
    Which is precisely why, after experience with an OM4, I will never have a camera with an electronic shutter or is battery dependent in any way.
    Then perhaps the Nikon FM3A may interest you as I believe it is the only full hybrid camera with aperture priority autoexposure capabilities with batteries and full shutter speed control when batteries fail.

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    :-) Now you stretch this way too far. The FM3A is on another league. I love mine, it is my all time favorite. It is a lot more capable than the others listed here, and for some weird reason I have never shot a single film with it. I just have it in its box caring nothing happens to it. (any doctors in here? )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Les Sarile View Post
    But you didn't answer the question of what feature one has over the other besides "looks" and "nameplate". For instance I prefer the LX's ability to aperture priority autoexpose a scene for as long as it takes - a feature that no other camera brand or model, past or present, can do. This gives me a photographic opportunity such as the 35 minute autoexposure example below on Kodak Ektar 100.


    Hoover Dam at night
    Actually, there are other cameras which can take such long autoexposures, the Nikon FE being the most obvious example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sangetsu View Post
    Actually, there are other cameras which can take such long autoexposures, the Nikon FE being the most obvious example.
    The unique thing about the LX is that it is measuring the light in real time, i.e., during the entire exposure.
    Pentax only specifies 125 seconds, but in reality it will go until the meter determines that exposure is correct.
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lxdude View Post
    The unique thing about the LX is that it is measuring the light in real time, i.e., during the entire exposure.
    Pentax only specifies 125 seconds, but in reality it will go until the meter determines that exposure is correct.
    The Yashica Electro 35 series of rangefinders will also take outrageously long metered auto-exposures. And possibly the Minolta Hi-Matic E and Olympus ECR, as they use the same metering and electronically controlled shutter as does the Yashica.

    And I think that the Yashica Electro AX SLR (M42) will also produce similarly long metered auto-exposures.
    Last edited by elcabezagrande; 01-23-2014 at 06:09 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sangetsu View Post
    Actually, there are other cameras which can take such long autoexposures, the Nikon FE being the most obvious example.
    I previously stated that I tested all my Nikons too including the FE2, FG, FA, F3, FM3A, N2020, N70 and others too and not only did none of them went past 15 minutes but that the same body under the same controlled lighting will vary exposure times randomly. In controlled lighting tests, all the Canons I tested limit to 30 seconds consistently, the Minoltas randomly past a few seconds the Olympus were consistent but limited to a few minutes while both of my LX meter consistently the same up to more than 2 hours.

    This one is more than 4 hours on Kodak Gold 100.


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    Quote Originally Posted by elcabezagrande View Post
    The Yashica Electro 35 series of rangefinders will also take outrageously long metered auto-exposures. And possibly the Minolta Hi-Matic E and Olympus ECR, as they use the same metering and electronically controlled shutter as does the Yashica.

    And I think that the Yashica Electro AX SLR (M42) will also produce similarly long metered auto-exposures.
    As I posted above, how long of an autoexposure can they do and will they do it consistently?

    With the LX, it will autoexpose for as long as it takes or batteries fail and they are consistent as I have tested both of my LX to meter the same past 2 hours. Of course on top of that, it monitors the scene in realtime and varies the exposure accordingly due to it's off the film system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Les Sarile View Post
    As I posted above, how long of an autoexposure can they do and will they do it consistently?
    The Electro 35 also features "off the film" metering.
    I have no idea how long, I suppose until the battery runs out.

    The photographer claims a 5-minute exposure here:

    http://www.dequalized.com/page/8

    and I recall a fellow posting an eight-plus minute exposure in rff a couple of years ago, but I did not save the post. I'm sure that the exposure is likely not as precise as the LX, but it is a much less sophisticated (and far less expensive) camera.

    I shoot mostly in daylight, so it really doesn't matter much to me. Perhaps someone more patient than I could do some experimentation, but that is probably best left for a new thread.
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