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    Digital color outlast Analog color?

    I'm a firm believer in analog B&W, both for permanence & beauty. But out side of (no-longer-available dye transfer), digital pigment prints are said to last upwards of 300 yrs. Not so for film color, I believe. Any Facts? Thanks, Chip

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    Oh blimey, here we go.......

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    THEY WILL BOTH OUTLAST ME.
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    you have to divide it up,

    B/W film, last for a long time
    B/W fiber paper, last long time (depend on process, storage...)
    B/W plastic paper, shorter then the fiber paper
    B/W platinum print, the paper will decompose before the platinum/palladium

    Colour plastic paper, I have prints that start to show heavy colour cast
    Ilfochrome prints, last for a long long time, guess the paper will decompose before the pigments
    pigment prints ... I would guess somewhere between RA4 paper and Ilfochrome

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    Why does it need to last? Any picture (paintings as well) needs to be durable enough to be worth having. Our colour family snap-shots from the 60s are still fine but they are kept in a box in the dark - grandchildren will not care if the colour has a cast. Pictures on the wall? I am going to get bored with them inside of 100 years never mind 300 so as long as they last me twenty years or so, I will be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandholm View Post
    Ilfochrome prints, last for a long long time, guess the paper will decompose before the pigments
    Ilfochrome prints consists of dye- not pigment-images.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgX View Post
    Ilfochrome prints consists of dye- not pigment-images.
    Also, it isn't on paper but on polyester.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RalphLambrecht View Post
    THEY WILL BOTH OUTLAST ME.
    You got that right! Not only my prints but my equipment would out last me too!

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    They are supposed to last very long there is just no real proof those accelareted aging tests are not really proof of anything. If you want truly permanent color prints use the fresson process, the four color gum, or four color carbon process these have proven to be permanent unlike newer so called archival processes. Also the problem with modern color prints is that they are not washed long enough and the fixer is often not new or hasn't been replenished by the lab. Mini and quick labs are the worst offenders in killing image permanence. So I would say a good pigment based print (inkjet) should keep longer than a machine processed (mini/quicklab) color print. Analogue materials if correctly processed should keep just as long as those inkjets but they rarely are.

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    digital images uploaded to the internet are indexed nearly immediately and will last forever.
    physical images ..
    well no one knows, the interweb is the image of the future anyways ..
    tangible, is so old timey ..

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