I currently own 2 EF bodies... I had one and loved it so much that I bought a backup body.
As for the battery issues mentioned above... I've always used PX625 (I think that's the number - don't have it in front of me) that I pick up pretty much anywhere. I find the meter wonderfully acurate, and have NOTHING bad to say about the camera at all.
Another cool thing if you use it, is that you can set the timer up to 30 seconds to do timed exposures.
Thank you for all the input! I think I will give one of these a new home soon - I let one slip through my fingers on ebay... and now I want to catch another deal that good...Silly me!
David - thanks for that bit of info, I actually looked into it a bit now that you brought it up. You are absolutely correct - but I have no specific number, just the "earlier ones had this, later ones had that" kind of confirmation. It is good to know, as my AE-1 has the "dual-mode" screen, and I love using it. When the split screen runs out of light or there are no defined lines in view, the matt ring is a godsend!
Joe - 30 sec! Wow! This thing seems to be a tank, too! And thanks for more info on the batt. situation - it did give me a bit of a pause at first, but the feedback I got from you and others really put me at ease. I bet if we keep this thread running, someone will chime in a with a story of how they used an EF as a blunt weapon or a wheel chock (and then kept on taking pictures)!
Well everyone had already pointed out all the other pros... It does have...
Originally Posted by gnashings
30s, 15s, 8s, 4s, 2s, 1s, B, 2, 4, 8, 15, 30, 50, 125X, 250, 500, 1000
Pc socket and hot shoe
A great meter! (I've never had problems)
Multiple exposure control
Heavy duty construction
Basically it's an F1 without the motor or the changable viewfinder
I love my EFs... They've served me well for over 10 years now and I bought them both used.
Good luck and have fun with your new cameras!
One more thing - I let one (nice too) slip through my hands... and started to look at the camera I originally wanted to get - a NewF1. Basically its a factor of at least 2.5 -3 X the price (without any goodies like the AE finder, motor drive, etc - whi are NOT a must have for me)... and I'm not even getting mirror lock up!
I have studied the New F1 quite a bit, and now I am wondering if I want to spend that kind of money since that EF has been such a surprise... I guess its a "would ya? type of question to any who cares to "philosophise" on the issue. Thanks again, everyone has been so great with the input!
I have a New F-1 and had an EF as a second body for a while.
The New F-1 has a better mirror damping system, and I've tested it against the EF with MLU. While the EF does better with MLU than it does without MLU, the EF with MLU is not necessarily better than the New F-1N in my experience.
The big attraction of the New F-1 for me is spot metering, but it's hard to find the focusing screens that will give you that option. If you want spot metering, but can't find the focusing screen, you might look at a T-90.
The EF does have a faster X-sync speed (1/125) than the New F-1 (1/90).
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Thanks, David - I found it very strange that Canon would have been silly enough not to offer that option on its flagship model. Almost all other pro level SLR's I know have MLU. This might be a case of engineers believing a little too much in their own abilities - kind of like the 1950's fighter jets that had no cannons, because it was deemed obsolete... until they got into a shooting war and everyone was grafting cannons onto them with everything including duct tape! And the new EOS pro lines all have MLU as far as I know. Just like all new fighters have on board cannon...
Oh, what to do, what to do...
I had the same suspicions about MLU, which is part of the reason I bought the EF in the first place, already owning a New F-1. I do a fair amount of bird photography with a 600mm lens and 1.4X or 2X extender, where the difference should show up, but it really doesn't. Of course if the New F-1 had MLU it would be even better than it is, but even without it, it's steadier than an EF or an old F-1 with MLU.
So, the Canon angineers are actually right about the New F1 not really needing a MLU? That was my only quibble with that camera, as all the Nikon F's have it, and the new Canon pro models have it... But I am willing to go with the voice of experience - if its that good (the NewF1), then I won't worry about it...(and maybe get an EF later, simply because I like the old thing!)
Much to my own surprise, yes, I believe that to be true, presuming the camera is in good repair and has had a routine CLA in recent history. I eventually sold off my EF, but I still have the New F-1 that I purchased new around 1983, and I have an old F-1n as a second body.
Originally Posted by gnashings
Hmm, I guess I will be happy with either one then, its just a matter of how long I can hold out for a deal on an NewF1 - Only a real steal on one of these is in my prise range right now, where as the average EF deal is quite accessible... I guess its up to my patience, and how long I can bear missing things because I dont have the right film in my camera
Thanks for all your input, its great since your experiences are priceless to me - there is no better way to really find out about something than from first hand accounts of people NOT trying to sell you something! Thanks!