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    Ostensibly, the OM-4t also solve the reliability/failure problems with preceeding models including the OM-4. Since I've had my OM-4t since it was released many years ago, I've had no problems.

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    Well, You are frightening me now.
    Is the OM4 that bad and is the OM4Ti that much better?
    And - is the OM4 more unreliable than OM2SP
    I'm asking such foolish questions, because I''ve never kad any business with such cameras, and I'm sure You here know much more and can help me.
    So - can I buy the OM4 without extra fear for having it break down?

    And, finally - thank You - all of You

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    I have an OM-4 which has been to the hospital 3 times and its shutter is as flaky now as it ever was
    Not putting any more money in it
    Mark
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    I have had an OM-4 since they came out sometime in the 1980s and it has been good as gold ever since despite very heavy use in some nasty places (archaeological sites) and often by some pretty rough people (my students). The only trouble it has ever had was getting sand in the shutter speed dial which was a) my fault for dropping it in the Jordanian desert and b) an easy fix. My only moan is that it gets through batteries faster than my other OMs. It is a joy to use and, with my 4Ti, is probably my most used camera. Don't panic. There are poorly made examples of any product ever made and sadly Mark sounds like he might have got a duff OM-4. It doesn't mean that most of them aren't fine.

    David.

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    I've heard that the batteries drain even if You don't use the camera.
    By taking out one of the batteries, could their life be extended?
    I'm afraid I won't find the needed Silver oxide batteries here in Latvia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Dunbar
    reinis: The batteries used in the OM-2, OM-2n, OM-2S/Program, OM-3 and OM-4 are 2x 357,(or its replacement 392/384,) LR44 and compatible. Use ONLY silver, not alkaline or lithium. The characteristic power curve of the 357/392/384 type batteries is to maintain a stable 1.5v until the end of their life. (see http://zuiko.com/PAGE15.HTML) These batteries can be had very cheaply through mailorder and will last as long as 6 months -year depending on usage. I think the battery drain problem is WAY over-hyped.

    Also note that the spot metering on the OM-2s and Spot/Program is only in manual mode.

    BTW, I saw some OM-4s on eBay that might go within your price range, so don't give up hope. And shop other sources, too. KEH sometimes has good deals on an OM-4, and their ratings are very conservative from what I've gathered.

    Enjoy!

    Earl
    Well, I visited some shops to see if I can get what I need.
    From the link:
    "OM-2S Best Battery: "357" 1.5V Silver Oxide. (No Alkaline,
    No Lithium) other silver oxide 1.5v batteries, can be used
    (MS76, SR44, G13 etc) "
    Well, I don't remember which were those, but 357, SR44, 392 and 384 - they're not similar.
    Some of them were tiny, but the other type - somewhat larger.
    The 384 was 7,9 x 3,6 mm, that's the little one.
    And - that was strange the alkaline batteries were more expensive than the silver.
    I checked some "RENATA" silver batteries.
    Guess this is the right one:
    http://www.battery-house.co.uk/button/357.shtml

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    See http://olympus.dementia.org/Hardware/357_batteries.html for more info on the 357s.

    Twin City Supply has been my source of 357s (~ $0.65 ea), but I think from discussions on the OM list, it appears there is a replacement for the 357. Sorry if I was in error regarding the replacement. If you can still get the 357, they will work. Sony SR44W is also of the same type/characteristics.

    And yes, removing the batteries from an OM4 or 2s that has a battery drain problem will preserve battery life.

    Earl
    Honey, I promise no more searching eBay for cameras.

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    Technical data (including graphs of discharge characteristics) can be found at data.energizer.com. The 357 is obsoleted and replaced with the 357-303. The capacity is reduced to 150mAh from 175mAh, and the discharge curve is way different. It would probably not be a good choice for any camera requiring a 1.5v battery. Use the Sony SR44W, or any true equivalent to the original 357.

    Earl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl Dunbar
    Technical data (including graphs of discharge characteristics) can be found at data.energizer.com. The 357 is obsoleted and replaced with the 357-303. The capacity is reduced to 150mAh from 175mAh, and the discharge curve is way different. It would probably not be a good choice for any camera requiring a 1.5v battery. Use the Sony SR44W, or any true equivalent to the original 357.

    Earl
    Thanks, I'm not sure I'll find any ENERGIZER batteries around here, though. But thanks.
    I'll try to get any other manufacturer discharge curves.

    Reinis

    PS

    http://www.renata.com/pdf/watch/DB357.03.pdf
    this looks better, and I know where to get those RENATA

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    Yeah, Reinis, that curve looks great. Buy a bunch!

    Earl
    Honey, I promise no more searching eBay for cameras.

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