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    Quote Originally Posted by pentaxuser
    The trouble is I have yet to find another owner past or present of a MZ7 so can't compare any notes.
    Not an MZ7, but I have a MZ-5n. I have it, my wife uses it mostly...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinten
    Since I could use AF for sports I bought a used F80 today, I can't even get a film loaded with this piece modern technology thingy while it was easy with my good old FE wich could well have been designed before I was born
    cheers!
    Quinten
    Actually the auto film load of the F80 is the fastest and easiest way to load film at all. Just RTFM and you will find that confirmed. Without a manual you never will be able to activate the full potential of this camera and it will stay a stupid full auto thing not better than any P&S.
    If you need a wheel to set ISO manually this isn't the right camera tho.

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    It works!!! You just have to put in the film first and pull the film while it's in the camera.

    I think the more a camera does the less I know what I am doing. The only reason I bought it is for the AF since long lenses wide open and a fast sport where bad ingredients for Manual focussing. I am surprised by the AF it's incredibly fast with the lens I bought for about 25 dollars

    Thanks for all those replies! And I sure will look for a manual, seems the thing has more setting than I can imagine.

    cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pentaxuser
    The posts in this thread is making me have second thoughts about changing to Nikon.
    The best advice is to go to a shop and handle one yourself. I've had one for about five years and think it is the best ergonomically-designed camera I've ever seen (compared with Canon, Minolta, Pentax, etc.), however, that's just a personal opinion. YMMV.

    Quote Originally Posted by pentaxuser
    I have a Pentax MZ7 and simply taking the leader and feeding it beyond the first couple of teeth on the take up sprocket has never failed.
    On the F/N80 slip in the canister, pull the leader across to the red line and close the back. That's it, done.


    Quote Originally Posted by pentaxuser
    There is an ISO section on the programme dial which is easy to use as well.
    Likewise on the F80. If you're using non-DX coded canisters, a film outside its auto range or would just like to change from the auto-set ISO rating then set the program dial to ISO and dial-in the new rating using the command wheel (under your right index finger). You can even change a custom function so that the camera will not automatically pick up the DX rating.

    Quinten - If you can't get hold of a manual try and get hold of a Magic Lantern Guide for it. It not only tells you what the camera can do but also why you might want to do it!
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    Impeach Nikon !! Sorry folks I'm just being silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roteague
    The N80/F80 is actually not a bad camera; I've had one for about 5 years and found it relatively trouble free. The autofocusing is better than my F5.
    I must say I find that hard to believe. The F80 has a cut down version of the F5's AF sensor (With only one cross sensor) and a weaker AF motor. The Af performance on the F80 is distinctly inferior to either the F5 or F100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mawz
    I must say I find that hard to believe. The F80 has a cut down version of the F5's AF sensor (With only one cross sensor) and a weaker AF motor. The Af performance on the F80 is distinctly inferior to either the F5 or F100.
    Well you may disagree, but I have heard alot of people who prefer the AF speed on the F80 over the F5..

    Now to render one of my personal opinions, the F80 is one of the worst ergonomically balanced cameras I have ever held in my hands..

    Just goes to show you why there are so many different models of cameras made now a days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mawz
    I must say I find that hard to believe. The F80 has a cut down version of the F5's AF sensor (With only one cross sensor) and a weaker AF motor. The Af performance on the F80 is distinctly inferior to either the F5 or F100.
    I can only tell you what I have found through experience. Yes, the sensors are different, the F5 and F100 use the Multi-CAM 1300 module while the F80/N80 uses the Multi-CAM 900 module (consumer grade, but newer design). I do a lot of shooting along the ocean - I live in Hawaii after all - and have found that the F5 has trouble locking onto ocean waves, it does a lot of hunting, and I usually have to turn it off and focus manually; something I rarely have had to do with the N80.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satinsnow
    Well you may disagree, but I have heard alot of people who prefer the AF speed on the F80 over the F5..

    Now to render one of my personal opinions, the F80 is one of the worst ergonomically balanced cameras I have ever held in my hands..

    Just goes to show you why there are so many different models of cameras made now a days.

    Dave
    When I bought my N80, I insisted on getting the optional battery pack with it. The camera was just too small for my hands without it. It balances the camera quite nicely, and has the additional advantage of coverting the camera to AA batteries (4ea).
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    Quote Originally Posted by roteague
    When I bought my N80, I insisted on getting the optional battery pack with it. The camera was just too small for my hands without it. It balances the camera quite nicely, and has the additional advantage of coverting the camera to AA batteries (4ea).
    Robert,

    No aurgument intended at all, was just voiceing my opinion that is all it is, just my opinion, the camera don't fit the way I shoot, or my hands, but I know there are a great many out there that it does...

    Dave

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