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    Interesting, not a zoom in the bunch.
    Would have thought the FM3a would be a candidate for keeping.
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    I guess Nikon is trying to make up for the loss of so many pro shooters to Canon when everyone went to autofocus. They were too conservative at the time and didn't foresee the popularity of autofocus so Canon got a jump on them. Now they intend to embrace the technology and forge ahead as a digital only company. It's not good for us film shooters but it probably is good for Nikon's future.

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    Many of the pro shooters I know, switched to Canon, not due to the autofocus issue, but due to the fact that Nikon was failing to meet their needs on some items, in one very stupid incident I remember in the store, one of our prominent wildlife photographers wanted to purchase a AF extension tube to work with birding and Nikon told him to get another teleconverter and take the lens elements out of it...it took him all of about 15 minutes to bring all of his gear to the store and told us to sell it and he ordered a complete Canon film replacement system to the tune of about 50K in expenditures....

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    I just purchased a FM3a before Christmas, glad I did, but I thought Nikon would continue supporting film users for quite some time to come.

    I guess thats business, go where the big bucks are, and not care about your customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satinsnow
    David,

    Not a big relief, but they did say the FM10 will stay in the line.

    Dave
    True, but only outside Europe - not good for us Brits!

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    Super shocked, and more shocked that it is Nikon that are doing it and not Canon or Minolta, I thought Nikon where in for the duration.
    I had herd they were going to ditch some models and have a smaller line, one rumour I had herd was that they would ditch the F80 and F100 and replace it with one model that sits between the two.
    I also thought they would bring out that new film model this year to get some of the sales that are bing eaten up by the hugh amounts of second hand gear back.
    I also would have thought they would keep a few Manual lenses going for students ETC and LF lenses, well I thought that they can be used digitally.

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    Umm, let's see now. Manual lenses sales are... minimal in an autofocus world ?

    Would any of us buy a new F manual lens... when we can go to eBay and get one mint for 25% of new ? Get real.

    Zeiss is introducing their lenses in F mount, certainly with Nikon's support. How's the timing on this ?

    And Nikon get's what ?

    Production capacity ? Engineering capacity ?

    To do what ?

    Develop optics for the digital cameras that keep their doors open ?

    Nah, too logical.

    Introduce a new mount to support digital properly ?

    Nah...

    Nikon is a very small company with a big reputation. They have to manage their resources just like us. Large format lenses and EL glass has always been made in batches. It's probably obvious that running another batch of 50/2.8 enlarging lenses will never sell, so stop making them. Goodness knows how long it will take to sell out their current supply.

    Reality check. How many NEW, from a camera shop lenses ( cameras ) have we bought lately ?

    Are we all just a bunch of haters ?

    Then hammer Nikon for going digital. They should have closed the doors, fired the engineers and workers, and burned the factories instead.

    Film forever !

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnywalker
    Interesting, not a zoom in the bunch.
    Would have thought the FM3a would be a candidate for keeping.
    Nikon has not made any manual focus zooms in years, so of course they are not announcing that any of them would be continued ;-) OK, so "manual focus" went missing in the repost to APUG by OllyB, but it is there in the Nikon PR. All other manual focus lens except those listed are now discontinued. Odd they didn't discontinue some of the low end kitlens that mostly were sold with the now-discontinued film bodies.

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    I happen to agree with DF, I know I have not purchased a "brand new" item from a photography store for quite a while now, there is just to much available on the pre-owned market that is priced at levels I can afford, and we have to remember, a pre-owned item sold does nothing to support the manufacture of new items by any company.

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    Reminds me of the famous letter sent to Henry Ford back in the early '30s by Clyde Barrow ( as in Bonnie and Clyde ). He praised the Ford V8, and said ( in as many words ) that it was his favorite get-away car. "I steal one whenever I can !".

    The letter is on display at the Ford Museum. I don't think it really helped sales, though.

    Nikon is my favorite. It's all I buy on eBay.

    yep. Well, not quite.
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    and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision"

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