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    New toy - Canon Pellix QL

    Hi all,

    Today I was walking past a friend's research lab (they work in the area of fluid mechanics). In a corner of the lab there was some old unused equipment. As I looked thru it I found a camera mounted on a tripod (an old Velbon pod that musta weighed 10 lbs!). It said Canon Pellix.

    I played around with it for a while. It had been lying unused for over a decade but it is in perfect working condition. The smoothness and precision with which the mechanical parts work - the clicking of the aperture ring, the motion of the focus ring, the shutter's smart operation - is absolutely amazing. But I had a concern - the mirror didn't seem to be flipping up. I thought, maybe it's stuck. But I looked again at the name - Pellix - and then it hit me - it's a pellicle mirror!

    It turns out the Canon Pellix QL is quite the piece of work. Not only does it have an ultra-thin pellicle mirror but it also has Canon's old quick-loading mechanism for the film chamber. No mirror flip and no need for mirror lock-up - I can see why this camera was being used in a lab for high-speed motion photography in fluids. Also you can see your image till the time of exposure and during long exposures! I can see interesting astrophotography possibilities.

    Anyway, was just excited about it. I'll play around with it a bit. If anyone has or has used this camera I'd like to hear from them. I've heard batteries for it are nearly impossible to find but I can live without a meter. The lens on it is an old 50 Macro! I didn't know they had Macros in 1965.

    Badri

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    If it takes the old mercury batteries , then yes their almost impossible to get, but there are replacements, and from what i have read in the past, a camera repair person can change some of the metering systems over to the newer voltage batteries.

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    Those are really cool; the only drawback is sometimes you get internal reflections on hard, point light sources.

    Be careful and don't touch the pellicle! Correct me if i am wrong but I think that it is made of nitrocellulose and is very fragile.

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    Don't feel bad, I've read the name a thousand times, and until reading this post I didn't make the obvious connection either! Pellix...hmmm. Sounds like a really cool find!

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    yes, i saw a few posts on photo.net about getting batteries for it from Canada, or having a repairman switch over the meter voltage. I'll try it sometime.

    I have to put a trial roll into it and see what it churns out. It might need a little cleaning in places. A nice alternative toy to my Pentax MX. oh, btw, the viewfinder is almost as good as the MX. probably a little darker but it looks like at least 0.95 magnification with the 50! yippee.

    Thanks for the input guys..

    Quote Originally Posted by waynecrider
    If it takes the old mercury batteries , then yes their almost impossible to get, but there are replacements, and from what i have read in the past, a camera repair person can change some of the metering systems over to the newer voltage batteries.

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    If the meter is like my dad's TL QL, the meter will be roughly one stop off with alkaline batteries.

    Chris

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    A manual for the Pellix is here:
    http://www.butkus.org/chinon/canon_p...non_pellix.htm

    The meter is not like the TL, as the meter cell is a pretty small spot behind the mirror in front of the film on the Pellix. Can't recall if the TL metering pattern is like the FT(b), but those bodies used a 12% center rectangle to meter through a half-silvered section (I believe up in the condenser below the pentaprism) to pick off the metering light. The FT and TL models had moving mirrors. The Pellix is more of a spot meter according to the instructions. You can see the darker center metering rectangle on the FTb. You'd also have to calibrate differently for the mirror losses on the Pellix.

    I used to have the booster meter shown in the manual's accessories listing in a version for my FTb bodies, a cool accessory if you shoot low light and can find one in working condition, but they were pretty rare. Look around the area where you found the camera and if you find one, grab it.

    Lee
    Last edited by Lee L; 02-13-2006 at 03:16 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Thanks for the manual link.. that's quite useful. I'll find a battery and try out the meter.. I don't know if I can also find a Booster where I found the camera.. that would be asking for too much!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee L
    A manual for the Pellix is here:
    http://www.butkus.org/chinon/canon_p...non_pellix.htm

    The meter is not like the TL, as the meter cell is a pretty small spot behind the mirror in front of the film on the Pellix. Can't recall if the TL metering pattern is like the FT(b), but those bodies used a 12% center rectangle to meter through a half-silvered section (I believe up in the condenser below
    Lee

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    I owned one of these many years go. Purchased it new and kept it for five years or so. Even when the camera was brand new the pellicle caused a very slight loss of sharpness compared to the Canon FT or FTBn with the same lens. Don't know if there is any way to clean the pellice, but I would imagine that after a quarter of century it would need it.

    Sandy




    Quote Originally Posted by badoix
    Hi all,

    Today I was walking past a friend's research lab (they work in the area of fluid mechanics). In a corner of the lab there was some old unused equipment. As I looked thru it I found a camera mounted on a tripod (an old Velbon pod that musta weighed 10 lbs!). It said Canon Pellix.

    I played around with it for a while. It had been lying unused for over a decade but it is in perfect working condition. The smoothness and precision with which the mechanical parts work - the clicking of the aperture ring, the motion of the focus ring, the shutter's smart operation - is absolutely amazing. But I had a concern - the mirror didn't seem to be flipping up. I thought, maybe it's stuck. But I looked again at the name - Pellix - and then it hit me - it's a pellicle mirror!

    It turns out the Canon Pellix QL is quite the piece of work. Not only does it have an ultra-thin pellicle mirror but it also has Canon's old quick-loading mechanism for the film chamber. No mirror flip and no need for mirror lock-up - I can see why this camera was being used in a lab for high-speed motion photography in fluids. Also you can see your image till the time of exposure and during long exposures! I can see interesting astrophotography possibilities.

    Anyway, was just excited about it. I'll play around with it a bit. If anyone has or has used this camera I'd like to hear from them. I've heard batteries for it are nearly impossible to find but I can live without a meter. The lens on it is an old 50 Macro! I didn't know they had Macros in 1965.

    Badri

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    I shot several rolls with the Pellix in the mid '60's. The light loss is about 30% to the film. The internal light meter compensates for that, but not when using flash. As I found out, my flash exposures were under-exposed because of that 30% light loss. The 12% meter coverage takes some getting used to. If you use a hand-held meter don't forget to reduce the ASA by 30%! There was a slight loss of contrast because of the pellicle mirror, but sharpness was excellent because of lack of vibration and mirror slap. Also, the stationary mirror is always in perfect alignment. I had the 50mm f/1.2 lens, which was quite soft up to f/4 or 5.6.

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