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    I'm pondering saving for a Fuji Natura...

    The $350 price tag of this camera could easily get me into a 4x5 system or perhaps even the CV 25/4, but at 24mm with an f/1.9 lens, it's looking like the perfect wideangle solution for dim night shots. I love my Jupiter-12 35/2.8, but having something wider would be interesting.

    So here's the thing...I'm willing to go out to a 28mm lens and as slow as f/2.8. Is there anything else as advanced as the Fuji camera that may be slightly slower for a bit less? Should I just bite the bullet and save? Am I going to wish I had this camera after I get something else?

    I've wanted a point and shoot that could fit in my purse for quite a while...I want something I can have with me for the times when a great shot comes up but I can't really go carrying my Canon P + lenses in a bag.

    Give me some feedback, tell me I'm crazy, etc.

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    Buy it! And tell me if its as nice as it looks.

    I dont know of another camera that would give you the speed and the compact size. But if you're thinking about a 4x5 system, save for that and maybe get a new camera bag instead??
    Nikki

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    I don't think there's much info for Natura S in English language. It's a Japan-only model. Fuji has quite a few of those.

    I don't see anything that can be put in the same category as Natura S. Nikon 28Ti, maybe, but a used one is no cheaper than Natura S brand new. Ricoh GR-1v is another nice one (I use it all the time). There are a lot more options if you can use 35mm (Konica Hexar, Olympus Stylus Epic, etc.).

    One thing about Natura S is that, if you load it with a film of 1600 or faster speed, the camera turns off flash by default, no matter how dim the light is. But there is no way to permanently turn off the flash if the film is slower. The camera does not remember the flash-off setting once you go through a power cycle. A LOT of us wrote Fuji in the past, every time they made a fantastic compact camera that forgot the camera setting when power is cycled. But they never listened on this particular one. Natura Classica will be a different one, because the flash is usually retracted and pop up when used. Fuji will know they should've responded to us earlier, and I hope they'll sell Natura Classica body with the 24mm prime.

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    That would be nice. What would be even nicer is if they sold a camera with a slower 24mm prime (f/2.8 or so) and made it cheaper...less saving that way.

    I'll probably get it. Importing sucks, but that's what I get for living in the US instead of Japan.

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    The idea behind what Fuji is doing these days is that they advocate flashless photography with high speed films and lens. They want to sell fast films, which have larger profit margin. So it's not likely that they'll downgrade the lens. BUT I don't mind if they got rid of the flash and made it 5000 yen cheaper... or instead add a manual aperture control dial.

    The 24mm f/1.9 has very little distortion but has noticeable vignetting. Something to be expected, though.

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    I'm one of the weird ones that *likes* vignetting in certain situations. I also noticed that the distortion is very minimal and I like that. I will probably get one of these, but closer to the summer months...I should have more money then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki
    Buy it! And tell me if its as nice as it looks.
    My Natura S is always with me. I tell you it's nicer than it looks.
    kunihiko kario

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    I carry my Natura S all the time, with either Natura 1600 or EK 5299 Vision2 500T (DX coded for 400 - the camera would read a 500 code as 400 anyway). My initial thoughts on the camera are over in the compacts thread. I haven't found the fall-off to be noticeable. I would prefer to be in control of the exposure compensation when fast film is loaded (the manual over-ride is only available for film DX-coded with 800 and below). I guess that one way would be to code the Natura 1600 for 800. The manual focus over-ride (infinity only) only holds for one shot - you have to keep resetting it between shots. I guess that's better than accidentally leaving it on.

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    Nice looking camera. Out of my price range though.
    Technological society has succeeded in multiplying the opportunities for pleasure, but it has great difficulty in generating joy. Pope Paul VI

    So, I think the "greats" were true to their visions, once their visions no longer sucked. Ralph Barker 12/2004

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    Light falloffs would be more noticeable if you used the camera in uniformly dim lighting situation like dawn, especially with fast films. The falloff is worst at wide open and gets better as the lens comes to f/4 or so.

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