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    Are there any good Nikkor AF lenses that do well on Nikon manual cameras? Any good recommendation for the zoom lenses for traveling (preferably something compact and light-weight)?

    I've been thinking about getting a used 24-120mm F3.5-5.6 Nikkor D lens for convenience, but I've never read any good reviews on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snegron
    This of course led to me wondering what most people use out there, manual focus or auto focus lenses?

    Are newer autofocus lenses "better" because they have more precise computerized manufaturing techniques and better coating?

    Are older manual focus lenses better because they were mostly glass and metal instead of 90 percent plastic (including lens elements)?

    What are your preferences, autofocus or manual focus lenses and why?
    I think it depends upon the lens, actually. From what I hear some manual focus lenses are dogs, and from my experience some are wonderful. The newer AF lenses seem to me to be repackaged optics of the MF, especially primes (my experience is primarily with Nikon with 35mm). I would think that since most modern volume lenses tend to be zoom-style autofocus, that not a whole lot of work is being done on MF primes except in niche markets?

    I think we have the capability to make soem optics with truly amazing resolving power, but I don't know if we will experience that in any sort of consumer way.

    My experience was with a 50/1.8 AIS Nikkor and a 50/2 AF-D Nikon lens on a FM2n. I didn't notice much difference except in the look-and-feel department. I recently got a Nikon series E 28/2.8 Manual focus lens - and the feel is much more like the autofocus AF-D, though I have yet to see if it is more or less sharp (*JUST* got the lens this week and am only 1/3 through a roll of film). From the viewfinder, it looks optically not too shabby, but I will have to see how the film turns out.

    I prefer MF when I have time to compose a shot, I much prefer autofocus everything when I want to "snap" the shots out, but given 5 of my 7 cameras are fully manual I think I am speaking from a preferred MF vantage....
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    Try Nikkor 28-70mm AFD?

    Quote Originally Posted by firecracker
    Are there any good Nikkor AF lenses that do well on Nikon manual cameras? Any good recommendation for the zoom lenses for traveling (preferably something compact and light-weight)?
    I used a 50/2 AF-D that seems to have done a great job compared to my Nikkor 50/1.8 AIS on a FM2n. Neither are supposed to be "amazingly great" lenses, but they seem about equivalent in all important ways.

    I don't know about zooms personally but I hear good things about the Nikkor 28-70mm (f/3.5-4.5D). Since it a "D" series you can have manual control over aperture as well as focus and so on, and it is supposed to be really light (appx. 12oz) and small (<3" long).

    There are a couple of manual focus zooms, that I have been looking at, though I have no idea if they are any good...?
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    Autofocus zooms I've had or have now, with comments...


    AF-S 17-35/2.8D ED - good manual feel
    AF 20-35/2.8D - good manual feel, not quite as good as the 17-35 but still good
    AF-S 24-85/3.5-4.5G - no aperture ring so you can't use it on manual bodies. Decent manual focus feel on AF bodies though.
    AF 35-80/4-5.6D (first version, metal mount) - shockingly good quality for the money. Reasonable but unspectacular manual feel.
    AF 35-135/3.5-4.5 - short focus throw and the ring is on the end of the lens so not the most convenient to use manually
    AF 75-300/4.5-5.6 - same as 35-135
    AF 80-200/2.8 ED (first AF version) - exceptional manual feel; very nice damping

    I use them all manually at least occasionally (I sold the 35-135 but have the rest). They are at the very least good enough in manual mode, but the professional lenses are clearly better.
    Jim MacKenzie - Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

    A bunch of Nikons; Feds, Zorkis and a Kiev; Pentax 67-II (inherited from my deceased father-in-law); Bronica SQ-A; and a nice Shen Hao 4x5 field camera with 3 decent lenses that needs to be taken outside more. Oh, and as of mid-2012, one of those bodies we don't talk about here.

    Favourite film: do I need to pick only one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by firecracker
    ...I've been thinking about getting a used 24-120mm F3.5-5.6 Nikkor D lens for convenience, but I've never read any good reviews on it.
    Don't do it. I own that lens, and the 28-200, and both are soft.
    —Eric

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    Quote Originally Posted by firecracker
    Are there any good Nikkor AF lenses that do well on Nikon manual cameras? Any good recommendation for the zoom lenses for traveling (preferably something compact and light-weight)?

    I've been thinking about getting a used 24-120mm F3.5-5.6 Nikkor D lens for convenience, but I've never read any good reviews on it.
    My favorite all around lens is the Nikon 28-105mm 3.5/4.5 AF D. It is very sharp and not too expensive. Drawbacks are a rotating front element and an odd 62mm filter size. Other than that, I love this lens. It is not a G series lens, so you can use it with older Nikons as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snegron
    odd 62mm filter size. Other than that,
    What is so odd with a 62mm filter size, I have quite a few lenses that have this size filter? 62mm is not what I would consider an odd filter size, in fact all of the filter manufactures offer virtually their whole product line in this size..

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoJim
    The L lenses contain fluorite elements. The non-L lenses don't. The EF 50/1.4 is not an L lens but all the elements are glass. Since it has no fluorite elements (and many lenses do not need them), it isn't an L lens.

    Nikon uses ED glass. It serves the same purpose. It isn't as prone to temperature changes which is why Canon L lenses are often white (especially big telephotos and zooms) and Nikon's are generally black. Optically it is about a wash, although fluorite lenses are softer than ED glass so you can't use them as the outer element.
    Hi Jim,

    I am not sure if Canon uses Fluorite elements in all the L series lenses. The Fluorite element was introduced for the ultra fast Super telephoto lenses like the older 300mm Fluorite f2.8 SSC. The Fluorite elements may be used in some of the current ulrta fast Super Telephotos, but I suspect not in all the L series lenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Parker
    What is so odd with a 62mm filter size, I have quite a few lenses that have this size filter? 62mm is not what I would consider an odd filter size, in fact all of the filter manufactures offer virtually their whole product line in this size..

    Dave
    It is odd in my case because most of my lenses have either 77mm or 72mm filter sizes. Many of my older (smaller) manual focus lenses have 52mm filter sizes. It seems that currently Nikon only has about 4 zoom lenses and 3 primes with a 62mm filter size. as for the filter manufacturers, Nikon only makes one or two lenses with a 67mm filter size, yet most filter manufacturers make filters in that size as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snegron
    It is odd in my case because most of my lenses have either 77mm or 72mm filter sizes. Many of my older (smaller) manual focus lenses have 52mm filter sizes. It seems that currently Nikon only has about 4 zoom lenses and 3 primes with a 62mm filter size.
    Okay, I understand that it could be odd for you, but actually 7 lenses in a lens line with the same size filter of 62mm is quite a few lenses...

    Dave

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