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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    A quick question ? have you lost the plot :-)

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    Well, it does seem to have an effect on the current prices and hype about that particular lens....but, yeah. sorry, I did do a bit of un-necessary venting there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    How the **** can a SV be a better made version of the Spotmatic?
    One look at an SV compared to ant Spotmatic will show the body casting is different.

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    Dear Ian,

    Precisely. As far as I recall, they moved to a new factory in 1967 and started making a TTL and altogether mechanically inferior 'update' of the SV.

    I should have made myself clearer. Sorry.

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    Spotmatic were released 1964? 63?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    Trying to change lenses fast at rock concerts is difficult at the best of times but painfully slow with screw mount lenses.
    Ian, I couldn't more agree with you when the other day I was taking pictures outside by 0 celsius or so. When I started to focus the lens now stiff-lubed from the cold, I felt a distressing looseness on the lens mount that made me reach for the lens and an old-fashioned swear word in no time.

    But despite the occasional annoyance, I can't think of a more satisfying camera to use. In 99% of the situations I've been I don't need anything more than TTL metering and one lens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Zentena View Post
    Spotmatic were released 1964? 63?
    '64 at the earliest. SPII (inferior in build quality to the original Spotmatic) ? 1970.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Hicks View Post
    Precisely. As far as I recall, they moved to a new factory in 1967 and started making a TTL and altogether mechanically inferior 'update' of the SV.
    Roger, maybe you can answer this. How does the SV compare to the H3V (HV3?)? This H3 model is one my brother had when we were in our teens, with the meter above the prism, and it was the one that made me decide to go with the Spotmatic over the Minolta SRT and the Nikkormat. Nobody seems to mention the H3 model. Thanks.

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    Roger's views of Pentax camera's seem to be very jaundiced.

    I have an H3, can't remember where it came from, unfortunately it was broken, and has dings and dents, the shutter needs repairing, but it's very similar to the S1a's I used back in the 70's

    The H3's were rapidly superceeded by cameras with far larger production runs, which made Pentax a major company globally. I've never seen many SV's second hand I guess once the Spotmatics were widely available no-one wanted a camera without a built in meter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmr View Post
    Roger, maybe you can answer this. How does the SV compare to the H3V (HV3?)? This H3 model is one my brother had when we were in our teens, with the meter above the prism, and it was the one that made me decide to go with the Spotmatic over the Minolta SRT and the Nikkormat. Nobody seems to mention the H3 model. Thanks.
    Honeywell imported Pentaxes to the USA, and the S1-S2-S3 were sold as H1-H2-H3; the SV/H3V had a self-timer and self-resetting exposure counter over the H2/H3 (same camera with different lenses). The higher-end models had a 1/1000 top speed, unlike the H1/S1/H1a/S1a; the S1a had the self-zeroing counter of the SV. The S1a also had an inferior microprism to the SV, which was the top of the line before the Spotmatic came out.

    My first 'real' camera was an SV (written off in a motorcycle accident in the 1970s) and I still have two SV bodies and several lenses -- which is precisely why I don't rave about them. They're gorgeous little cameras to look and and use, the nearest you'll find to a reflex version of a screw-mount Leica for size and feel, but they do wear out faster than Nikon or Leica (which I switched to in the 70s) and the lenses really were not all that brilliant. Some were very good, but most are showing their age today, both in terms of their original quality and the wear and tear they have sustained.

    I had a big argument with Pentax about the quality drop at the new factory after I published something to this effect in a magazine in the UK some 30 years ago. They finally stopped arguing when I corralled five dealers and (Pentax-using or former Pentax-using) professionals, besides myself, who shared my views. As one dealer put it, "If they're so ****ing marvellous, how come I have to send back such a high percentage under guarantee?" The enormous increase in production, mentioned elsewhere, may have been related: they went from a small specialist company to a mass-market one, and in the process lost almost all their professional 35mm users.

    Modern Pentaxes are another matter -- I've not used them -- but most people who DID use them in the 60s, especially professionally, rated the SV as the sweetest and best-built of the lot. Except maybe the (much later) LX, which I have used and liked very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhv View Post
    In 99% of the situations I've been I don't need anything more than TTL metering and one lens.
    The more I shoot, the more I'm coming to the exact same conclusion. Natalie, my Praktica LTL has a great meter and I was fortunate enough to get a Mamiya 28mm and 50mm as well as an SMC Tak 35mm and 50mm all fairly cheap. I just recently added a Spotmatic II body so I can retire the Praktica. But it also only has a meter as its only whizbang.

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    Honeywell imported Pentaxes to the USA, and the S1-S2-S3 were sold as H1-H2-H3; the SV/H3V had a self-timer and self-resetting exposure counter over the H2/H3 (same camera with different lenses). The higher-end models had a 1/1000 top
    Thanks, Roger. This was most definitely a Honeywell, as was my Spotmatic. When I got the K1000, it was branded Asahi, however.

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