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    What I don't get is that there have been so many articles in magazines indicating the damage done to exposed film going through X ray machines. They always show the damage as a shift in colors or rainbow effect. Are there certain emulsions (other than higher ISO) that are more prone to be damaged by X rays? Is slide film more sensitive to this than negative film?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snegron View Post
    What I don't get is that there have been so many articles in magazines indicating the damage done to exposed film going through X ray machines. They always show the damage as a shift in colors or rainbow effect. Are there certain emulsions (other than higher ISO) that are more prone to be damaged by X rays? Is slide film more sensitive to this than negative film?
    Almost one year after my subscription expired, Pop Photo finally sent me an issue that said it was the final one.

    I am very pleased, as I have not seen an article dealing with the supposed deleterious effects of airport X-rays on film in that magazine in many years (if ever). In fact, except for exhuming Herb Eppler every once in a while - I haven't seen anything in that rag about film for a long, long time.

    Have you seen these kinds magazine articles recently in other publications? Is there still a mass market photography magazine that discusses film in any context, much less how it is affected by airport x-rays?

    If so, please advise as I'd love to find a mass market photog mag that still talks about film!

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    yesterday, I walked up to the security area at LAX and after putting all my film in a separate bag, asked the security officials to hand check the film, they did and sent me on my way. No problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copake_ham View Post
    Oh, and one very important rule, be as polite to the TSA inspector as you would be to your Mom on Christmas Eve! Works wonders when you treat these folk with respect.
    This is really the only piece of information required beyond that provided by "the authorities". Why everyone worries this issue so much or tries to "outwit" the system is truely a mystery to me!

    http://www.apug.org/forums/346941-post22.html

    http://www.i3a.org/itip.html

    http://www.i3a.org/pdf/I3AFilmXrayTestReport.pdf
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    Film: I fly out of Dulles...no problem having the film hand inspected even if it is crowded. Returned from Heathrow with exposed film. They will not hand inspect film. All film is xrayed. The film came out fine when I had it developed. Returned from Mexico and made the "mistake" of putting film in luggage. Came back fine as did second trip when it was xrayed in my carry on. As I understand it xray machines have become more "sophisticated". One technician showed me the xray of film in the black bag as it went through and pointed out that you could see right through it. I have also been informed that film up to ASA 800 (even slightly higher) will not be affected. There are other sites on the net with more info. than me.

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    I have always separated my film in a plastic bag and requested hand inspections on many flights and never had a problem. Until I was returning from a flight to Hawai'i and a very green TSA employee insisted on x-raying everything. I nicely explained that I was carrying professional film from a wedding and that I had the right and privilege to request and get a hand inspection. He adamately refused and got rude. I pulled out my business card from my previous employer [Kodak] and told him that I knew what I was talking about and that he needed to call his supervisor. He refused and then I went ballistic. His boss came running. The green employee had his say. I had mine, then the boss appologized for the trouble and took me around the security check point.

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    Unless you are using 800 speed film or faster, put it through the carryon X-ray, and don't worry about it. The danger of X-ray damage is highly exaggerated. I'm much more concerned about inspectors handling my equipment or accidentally opening boxes of LF film.
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    Does anyone else here realize that the only alternative to doing what we do is to shoot digital?

    Really, folks, if you're so darned worried about the effect of carry-on x-rays on your film (assuming that you cannot convince the TSA person to hand-inspect) then switch to digital!

    By and large, the TSA folk will do a hand inspection upon request and send you on your merry way. But if they insist on doing an x-ray (or if you're in some non-US jurisdiction that requires such) then you really have only two choices:

    1) Let them x-ray your film, or

    2) Become a digishooter and stop worrying about it.

    Is there anything else to discuss on this topic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by copake_ham View Post
    Does anyone else here realize that the only alternative to doing what we do is to shoot digital?

    Really, folks, if you're so darned worried about the effect of carry-on x-rays on your film (assuming that you cannot convince the TSA person to hand-inspect) then switch to digital!

    By and large, the TSA folk will do a hand inspection upon request and send you on your merry way. But if they insist on doing an x-ray (or if you're in some non-US jurisdiction that requires such) then you really have only two choices:

    1) Let them x-ray your film, or

    2) Become a digishooter and stop worrying about it.

    Is there anything else to discuss on this topic?

    Replace film for digital? Blasphemy! Where are those pitchforks and torches! :o

    As for the TSA's, they are way too unpredictable no matter how nice you are to them. If they are having a bad day, you will pay the consequences regardless of your positive demeanor. In other words, don't count on TSA's handchecking your film because just out of spite they might refuse.

    I am sure I speak for many here when I say that X rays of our exposed film worries us, especially if the images are of any value. Our concerns stem from previous magazine articles and past bad experiences.

    Yes, there have probably been advances in X ray technology (I would not know if this is a true statement or not because I have not read about any "alleged" advances in X ray technology recently), but there have also been advances in film technology making emulsion more sensitive and accurate than ever seen before. How do our new, wonderful films react to X rays? We have had Kodachrome for years and know how it will react, but what about Fuji Astia or Provia? What about Porta 400VC? What about Ilford Delta Pro 400 (yes, it is B&W film, but who knows?)?

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    Interested readers want to know!!

    1) So if I carry a roll or rolls of 120 film in my shirt pocket, will the metal detectors go off?

    2) When TSA inspects a roll or rolls of 120 film do they tear open the foil wrapper(s)?

    I just started using 120 film again and I would like to know before I leave 24 February.

    Steve

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