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    Those prices are crazy. You can get a clean F3HP from KEH in Atlanta, GA, US for well under $200 US. One of them found its way to me in Canada - hooray
    Jim MacKenzie - Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

    A bunch of Nikons; Feds, Zorkis and a Kiev; Pentax 67-II (inherited from my deceased father-in-law); Bronica SQ-A; and a nice Shen Hao 4x5 field camera with 3 decent lenses that needs to be taken outside more. Oh, and as of mid-2012, one of those bodies we don't talk about here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Fagan View Post
    Mawz, they are starting to rise in price in this country, due to unavailability of clean units.

    Last year was the bottom of the market, now as bodies with working shutters get a bit thin, prices are starting to rise. Different countries have different secondhand markets.

    In this country the F3 was the backbone of a couple of the very big newspaper chains. As a result there is an enormous number of very tired F3 bodies. It used to be a case of buy a body with a lot of work and get the shutter replaced. Last I heard, the availability of new F3 shutters is not looking as good as it was a year ago.

    Accordingly secondhand F3 bodies are starting to climb in this country. Last year it was reasonably easy to find a good body for around $400 now they are starting at $500 with dealers now asking and getting between $700 to $1,000 and the F3T around $1200.

    Students who will more than likely be a major part of the market for this new camera, cannot afford to purchase a secondhand camera online, only to find out it really needs some expensive servicing. They will spend slightly more and get a brand new lower specified camera.

    As someone who has helped quite a few students acquire secondhand cameras for their photography courses I have started to see how they are now questioning the value of secondhand cameras. They are now starting to look for the current equivalent of the K1000 for their use.

    Mick.
    They're not nearly thin on the ground here. I've recently seen clean units dropping below $300CDN on the ground here in Toronto, less on eBay and KEH. The only classic MF big-4 SLR I'm seeing over $400 for a common model these days is the Pentax LX, which is quite pricey (as is the MZ-S, their other really good body)

    Maybe you need to start buying from KEH instead of locally, make some money off the proce difference between your absurd local prices and the really low KEH prices.

    OH, and Nikon stocks parts for 10 years after a model is discontinued. F3 shutters will thus be available until 2011 at least (officially discontinued in 2001).

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    I agree about the pricing, but it's very hard to tell parents via their very late teens children, that they should buy something that they really don't know too much about via the internet.

    Last year I helped one student with her camera purchase via KEH. She tried my F3 and FE2 bodies, liked the FE2 so she bought one for 1/3 less than here.

    Fortunately the camera arrived just before she needed it, delivery is an issue with students. They need a camera at a certain time and it has to work. This is one of the major factors in why they walk into a shop, handle the camera, get a written guarantee, walk out with the camera then and there.

    Mick.

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    The new Kenko manual-only 35mm cameras are finally about to be released in August in Japan. Not that I would care so much about them, but...

    Here are the Nikon F-mount:

    http://www.kenko-tokina.co.jp/camera/4961607430910.html

    http://www.kenko-tokina.co.jp/camera/4961607430927.html

    And the Yashica mount:

    http://www.kenko-tokina.co.jp/camera/4961607430958.html

    And a viewfinder attachment:

    http://www.kenko-tokina.co.jp/camera/4961607430972.html

    The suggested price for KF-1n, which is the one I belive we were talking about in this thread earlier is, I heard, around 225 USD in the Japanese market.

    But then right now, you can get an Ex++ conditioned NIkon FM or FE for no more than 150 USD in the Japanese online auctions in average...

    And about the viewfinder, you can use it on the types of cameras listed in the page with different adapters. I don't know who needs this kind of device, but it looks pretty useful when it's needed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by firecracker View Post
    I'm happy to see a manual camera in production that I can hang my Zeiss glass on.
    That is called grain. It is supposed to be there.
    =Neal W.=

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    Unfortunately the photos make only too clear that this is the Chinese made body talked about earlier in this thread which has many reliability concerns about it. Unless the quality control has been much improved, I would be very uneasy about purchasing one of these. Late Nikon FM2n bodies have come down in price a lot recently and are easily repairable. One of these would be a more reliable long term purchase and a better specified camera than this Kenko badged model.

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