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    I would also suggest the MZ5n (ZX5n) or MZ3 (same, but with a higher top speed). You can use it fully manual or fully auto, it has multiple metering modes including spot metering, DOF preview, AA battery grip, plus little features like panorama mode and auto-bracketing that may appeal. It is fully compatible with all of the older lenses and the only ones you can't use are the FA-J (no aperture select on the lens) and the DA lenses which may vignette. As others have said they are dirt cheap: $130 - $160 at KEH for exc or LN examples and less on eBay.
    (note that the MZ5/ZX5 lacks a couple of useful features that you get with the MZ5n/ZX5n so is best avoided, given the small amount of money involved)

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    he's willing to spend $275, the same he found a new *Ist DS for. Looking at keh I think the pz-1p would be the best for him I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob100684 View Post
    he's willing to spend $275, the same he found a new *Ist DS for. Looking at keh I think the pz-1p would be the best for him I guess.
    My answer is of little relevance given I can only talk of UK prices but this amount translated into GBP would certainly have got him a PZ-1P in an e-bay auction I followed a few months ago and should equally secure a MZ5n in the U.K.

    The *ist seems to be the one to go for in terms of matching and beating the equivalent Canon and Nikon cameras but either very few were sold so the secondhand market is almost non existent or they were so good that all the owners are hanging on to them.

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    If he's willing to spend that much, then go for the *ist, or save up some more for the amazing MZ-S.

    However, for considerably less money, I'd consider the MZ-7/ZX-7. I recently got one, and it is a perfect match for my d*g*t*l Pentax *ist DL. I wrote my thoughts on this camera here:
    http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/p...-thoughts.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by filmamigo View Post
    If he's willing to spend that much, then go for the *ist, or save up some more for the amazing MZ-S.

    However, for considerably less money, I'd consider the MZ-7/ZX-7. I recently got one, and it is a perfect match for my d*g*t*l Pentax *ist DL. I wrote my thoughts on this camera here:
    http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/p...-thoughts.html
    filmamigo. Interesting article you wrote. I have a MZ7 as well. It doesn't seem to be a very common camera. The two features I would have liked on it but don't have is DoF preview and a viewfinder screen that gives more help with focussing when using manual lenses. The matte screen is fine for autofocus and with the manual A lenses at least you can use the green focussing indicator but a manual diagonal split prism would help greatly for manual lenses.

    What did you mean by the Pentax double clicking when you said it made a better job of autofocus than the Nikon F80? Never had a F80 so have no means of comparing but nice to know that the MZ7 does a better job from someone who has used both cameras.


    It's an underrated camera, I feel, compared to its Nikon and Canon rivals.

    Thanks

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    I'm not sure how to describe it. Pentax autofocus cameras are noted for doing a "double check" of focus, sort of like you do when focussing manually. They find the focus, then they spin past a little, and come back into focus.

    The Nikon F80 didn't doublecheck. It autofocussed quickly, and stopped at the focus point. No double check. This makes it a little quicker, but sometimes I found that the focus was out a little.

    On both my *ist DL and the MZ-7, I have a higher percentage of in-focus shots. I attribute that (at least partly) to the "double check" style of autofocus.

    I believe the new Pentax K20D offers the choice to turn off the double-check, making autofocus work more like Canikon cameras.
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    filmamigo. Thanks for that. I had noticed what I thought as slight "hunting". Focus is as you say always spot-on but it takes a split second to do it. It's also extremely sensitive. Move the camera even slightly from the focus point and it will re-focus. It's possible drawback is that in high speed sports action shots its pursuit of accuracy delays things a little more than Canikon cameras.

    Actually it reminds me of a third feature it lacks, namely focus points. All you have is the horizontal rectangle in the middle of the matte screen but this works well and I guess focus points belong to the next level up in tems of cameras, pricewise.

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    The SF1n goes for next to nothing and is not a bad camera. My wife and I used ours as the main cameras for over a decade but they have now fallen into disuse due to digital and MF and LF cameras being used. Still use my Mz5n which is smaller and more like a classic camera but in some ways the SF1n is easier to use especially for beginners or for those who will only use them occasionally. I tried to sell mine on ebay with a $60 reserve and the bidding only went up to 30 for which at that price I decided to keep it. They are also called SFXn in the States.

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    i love my zx-7/mz-7 i agree with the manual focus issue and lack of dof but i bought it in like new cond with the pentax smc 28-70 f3.5~5.6 lens so what do i have to complaim about right?
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    I would also recommend the MZ5n. Great camera. I think the features missing on the MZ5 were the postbox format (but you could crop that afterwards) and the depth of field preview. I would also recommend one of the 'made in Japan' ones rather than the 'assembled Somewhere else' model - I had one of each and the second just didn't seem quite so sweet

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