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    Lets not forget Kodak did take a lead in high end Digital SLR's working with both Canon & Nikon to produce first rate products for quite a few years, and that they were poised to re-enter the film market with a re-badged Kodak/Vivitar SLR a project that has only recently been abandoned.

    Eastman Kodak's whole history has been of buying in technology right from it's early beginnings, this started with companies like Velox, it's early attempts in the 1890's & 1903 to buy or amalgamate with Ilford, taking over Folmer & later Nagel,and there have been numerous other important acquisitions over the years, including Wratten & Wainwright and later Chinon.

    Although Kodak did well selling low end cameras to the masses it might also have been a mistake not to be at the top end as well like Fuji.

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    Kodak used to create new film types and matching cameras for years. I'm guessing that didn't thrill the competing camera companies. At some point you have to figure Kodak got the hint that competing against the camera companies wasn't the smartest thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darinwc View Post
    Kodak made a ton of cameras for for at least 50 years!! Including SLRs - look up retina reflexes.
    With such great success of their film products and inexpensive cameras like the instamatic.. i dont think it was worth it for them to compete with the likes of leica, nikon, canon, minolta, olympus, pentax, and others who dominated the pro camera markets in the 70's and onwards.
    I think you hit it on the head here. Their strategy for a long time (even back at the turn of the century (1900)) was mass marketed cameras for everybody. Brownies, autographics, vest pocket kodaks, etc - all made for the common man rather than the professional. Even fairly recently they seemed to focus on all kinds of plastic crap, like the 110 and 126 instamatic cameras.
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    Kodak made pro cameras for quite a while. Graflex has been mentioned. Weren't the Centuries Kodaks to?

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    We probably have to make a distinction between cameras made by Kodak, and cameras made by a company bought and owned by Kodak.
    Buying Frank Brownell's Camera Works, the Blair Camera Company, Folmer and Schwing. Nagel, etc. does not automatically make the cameras those companies produced, cameras produced by Kodak, instead of just cameras that were 'bought' by Kodak.
    The question is how big Kodak's involvement in the development of all the many different cameras these different works produced was.

    Now if the question was: "why did Kodak not sell cameras?", the answer would have been easy. They did.

    And if you would settle for an answer to the question as it was asked that went no further than that too, i.e "they did" again, it would also be as easy as that.

    But trying to name all the cameras "made" by Kodak?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rol_Lei Nut View Post
    Though branded "Kodak", they were made by what was Nagel in Stuttgart, Germany.

    II'd be curious to know what Kodak's input was, if any...
    (General marketing strategy? What type of product to come out with?)
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    And I would be curious to know if EK in Stuttgart made any money between 1939 and 1945; and if so, where the profits went? Imagine the thought of some little old lady in Britain or the U.S.A. receiving dividends from EK in Germany, if EK in Germany were making, say, gun sights for the Luftwaffe or some kind of wartime production, which it would have HAD to have done, were the production capabilities not to be wasted during war time.......???????
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    Don't forget the Leica copy Kodak developed during WWII (under military contract, wasn't it called the Xtra?) but as '40s pricing of $20K per copy, obviously didn't go very far. Kind of makes those $600 hammers sound reasonable.

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    John,

    Kodak made profit in Germany within WWII until war had been declared on the USA itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgX View Post
    John,

    Kodak made profit in Germany within WWII until war had been declared on the USA itself.
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    Do you think, then, that EK Stuttgart profit could not, say, be paid over via Switzerland or Sweden? Just a question, conditioned (perhaps) by my suspicion of the old multi-national corporations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anscojohn View Post
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    Do you think, then, that EK Stuttgart profit could not, say, be paid over via Switzerland or Sweden? Just a question, conditioned (perhaps) by my suspicion of the old multi-national corporations.
    IIRC (too lazy to look it up), after the declaration of war with the USA, Kodak/Nagel was confiscated until the end of the war.
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