Resurgence?

[zk-cessnaguy]

I'm not sure if I already said this (9 pages of thread is a lot). I did do some night photography, long exposures of 20mins plus, all because digital cameras cannot do it, at least the Sony / Minolta's cannot, and I assume the same with Nikons; they get a pink haze in one corner of the image form, and I have no idea why.

That's the sensor heating up.

[Java]

Only just found this thread and must confess to not reading my way through all off it.

But in responce to Winjeels starting post this may interest some of you.

Nicked from another forum

http://tokyocamerastyle.com/

[djohnfot]

You might, however, see new analog film cameras offered after dedicated digital film cameras are no longer available.

I can't see that happening except, perhaps, on the high end. The budget and middle markets have gone digital to stay and the only viable film product on those levels seems to be the disposable. Even on the high end, where quality film bodies are still being made, digital's share is in the high 90s. I see the gradual trickle down of full frame sensors into budget DSLRs and the movement of the 4:3 and APS "C" sized sensors into the more pocketable cameras. P & S sized sensors will be relegated, I hope, to the minis and toy camera market.

While I use digital I won't be giving up my T90 or Nikon film cameras until I can no longer buy film.

Encroachment by smart phones, a transition to frame capture from video and a decline in disposable income around the world could really catalyze that process, too.

Yes, the consumer is often willing to accept lower quality in favor of convenience. This means the marketers have done their jobs and stoked the fires of rampant consumerism to new heights.

On one of the other photography boards there is a recent posting wherein the OP is touting the quality of the camera in his new iPhone. He posted several example pictures. While I will admit they are better than your average cellular camera pictures they are worse than one would get from even the cheapest P&S digital. Yet the thread is full of ohs and ahs over the pictures with nary a negative comment or even an observation, save mine, of the low relative quality of the pictures. It's difficult to express an observation on most boards these days without starting a flame war. People ask for opinions then get all bent when some don't agree with theirs. They don't really want opinion, they want a confirmation.

[Sirius Glass]

Why am I not surprised to see you enjoying that comment? I've brought it up before, but I really don't get you or your motivations. You seem to enjoy this while the rest of us just want to shoot analog and not have any issues doing it.

If there is a resurgence, great. I do not think that it is all that big. I would love to see a much bigger resurgence.

Steve

[Sirius Glass]

That's the sensor heating up.

Thus increasing the noise level.

Steve

[Sirius Glass]

On one of the other photography boards there is a recent posting wherein the OP is touting the quality of the camera in his new iPhone. He posted several example pictures. While I will admit they are better than your average cellular camera pictures they are worse than one would get from even the cheapest P&S digital. Yet the thread is full of ohs and ahs over the pictures with nary a negative comment or even an observation, save mine, of the low relative quality of the pictures. It's difficult to express an observation on most boards these days without starting a flame war. People ask for opinions then get all bent when some don't agree with theirs. They don't really want opinion, they want a confirmation.

Yep. I just read them and move on. Why point out what they do not want to see. It is like selling something that tp people who do not want it.

Steve

[wayne naughton]

http://www.red.com/cameras/ I thought that maybe there would always be a place for film until i read this.When this technology seeps down to the mass market i just can't see any purpose in maintaing a film based system in my workplace.... since christmas i've been working with a full frame 24mpl dslr and i have been printing with an epson 4880. sorry guys,for me 35mm is finished. I still use mf but mainly for personal projects, To be quite honest, i really don't need to have a film camera around at all. Oh, rangefinders are the exception .....wouldn't part with mine for anything....grin

[Sirius Glass]

http://www.red.com/cameras/ I thought that maybe there would always be a place for film until i read this.When this technology seeps down to the mass market i just can't see any purpose in maintaing a film based system in my workplace.... since christmas i've been working with a full frame 24mpl dslr and i have been printing with an epson 4880. sorry guys,for me 35mm is finished. I still use mf but mainly for personal projects, To be quite honest, i really don't need to have a film camera around at all. Oh, rangefinders are the exception .....wouldn't part with mine for anything....grin

That website did nothing for me. The product did not add anything new to the film versus digitial debate.

Steve

[Poisson Du Jour]

I don't believe it is a 'debate' of film versus digital.
The rational point is that digital is an alternative, at this time with film also available. Like so many other photographers I use both film and digital (in arts practice and production, the foundations of exposure relating to film, composition, symmetry and visual literacy hold much, much more weight than the number of megapixels on your sensor). Film and digital have respective advantages and disadvantages, efficiency and knowledge bases. Unfortunately, digital photographers are often found wanting in terms of foundation knowledge in photography, with the result that we are being flooded with mediocre, pedestrian and Pshopped imaging.

Those other photography forums (photonet, among) with gloating beards and bulging wallets... the posters could do with some gravity in their education before they rant on about digital only; as a poster above says getting involved with them in that debate is a sure way to start a flame war. I do get a laugh from many of the types posting 24Mb images on the web for viewing...

[Sirius Glass]

I don't believe it is a 'debate' of film versus digital.

The product was promoted as a complete replacement for 35mm film. Therefore it appeared to be a prompt to start a debate which is not appropriate to APUG. I just called it as I saw it.

Steve