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    I don't think that is going to happen anytime soon, but I geuss that could change in the future when people decide to go back to film. Medium format and large format could see new models coming out.

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    Why the need for "new ones"!?
    What's wrong with the ones we have??
    Why should it be necessary to release new SLRs to attract people to film photography?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poisson Du Jour View Post
    Why the need for "new ones"!?
    What's wrong with the ones we have??
    Why should it be necessary to release new SLRs to attract people to film photography?
    I agree.

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    Well said. It would give the warm and fuzzies to one to see new film gear being produced on a grand scale. However, it is rather far-fetched that it will happen. You know, progress and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ap507b View Post
    Vivitar released one around a year ago (OK, I agree that Vivitar isn't one of the big makers, that their reputation has gone down a long way since their Series 1 days & have to say that the last Vivitar lens that I had, a 500mm mirror, was awful beyond belief)

    Here is a link to a review: http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/18...nual-film-slr/
    FWIW, the timing claims on this are a bit off -- although it could be that Vivitar waited a while before introducing it in some markets. I bought a used Vivitar V3800N in 2005. It was in excellent condition when I bought it, and I don't know how old it was -- it could be the original purchaser just kept it for a month and then put it up on eBay. I didn't get most of the extras mentioned in the review -- just the camera, 50mm lens, and strap. I'm satisfied with the camera -- but I own several others with varying feature sets, so if I want a motor drive or auto exposure or a bigger format I've got other options.

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    Yeah, the Vivitar V3800N has been around for the better part of a decade. Caught that but forgot to point it out.
    Thank you.
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    Why do you believe film will die if new equipment is not released? There's so much used equipment out there. I'm sure in 50 years if all of it suddenly breaks we might see new stuff though.
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    And they won't have the following that press cameras have 70 years later either.
    Thank you.
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    Look at the old black powder pistol market. There's a small but thriving business of a once giant - then passed by - market. With the compression of market cycles in the globally connected world it isn't unreasonable to hope that film will hold on to a strong niche for a long, long time. Clearly this what Ilford expects.

    And if other rising consumer markets like China, India, Brazil, etc. do develop a consumer class like the USA, then there will be new film users. After all, it isn't odd to think that there are budding hobbyist in those markets.

    Sure, film is relegated to a niche market for posterity because of the technological march, but let's say that 1 in 10K people stick with film as a serious hobby, and multiply that by a emerging middle class of billions, and that's a lot of Lucky film sold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ap507b View Post
    Vivitar released one around a year ago (OK, I agree that Vivitar isn't one of the big makers, that their reputation has gone down a long way since their Series 1 days & have to say that the last Vivitar lens that I had, a 500mm mirror, was awful beyond belief)

    Here is a link to a review: http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/05/18...nual-film-slr/
    That is a rebranded Phenix DC828N as far as i can tell. Phenix is a chinese brand, it is really a very large large camera maker, though not so well known here in the west. A lot of their production in their numerous factories is probably parts and pieces as subcontractor for all the big brands.

    The DC828N is a fully mechanical camera with Pentax-K mount. Another fully mechanical model is DN66 with Nikon mount. They have also a model with electromechanical shutter and aperture priority, the EK-180 AE, also with K-mount.

    This is very cheap cameras, around 200 eur. But i have the impression that they are quite well built compared to the price. You get a lot of camera for the price.

    I only have a link about Phenix cameras at a swedish dealer:
    http://www.photax.se/meny09/index09/indx09_system.htm

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