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    Which of these Ilford B&W films can I get developed at a facility that does C41?

    So, as many of you know, I just got back into film stuff and I don't have my own developing equipment, and likely won't for quite some time.

    I just picked up a mixed bag of films, and it has a few films which I'm not sure I can get developed locally...I know that some B&W is C41 while others are not but can still be developed at facilities that do C41...so I need your help...which of these films can I get developed without having to send it away to a specialty place?

    I have all Ilford:

    2 rolls Delta 100 24 exp
    2 rolls Delta 400 24 exp
    1 roll Delta 3600 36 exp

    Thanks very much!

    If it turns out that I can't get them developed, I know most of you have darkroom equipment, I'd be open to selling them or trading them for Canon FD gear or other film that I can get developed

    Cheers!
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    None of those are c-41; they're all regular black and white. Unfortunately, Delta really isnt my thing (I prefer HP5+ and FP4+), so I have no interest in them (Not saying they're bad; they're pretty damned good. I just have my process down for HP5 and FP4 and have no reason or desire to switch).

    What's keeping you from getting a tank and the chemistry to develop black and white film? Right now, I'm developing b&w negs normally and also reversal processing them as slides in my bathroom with no trouble (Though I am converting an old storage shed in the backyard in to a darkroom). ATM, I do send my film off to get scanned and printed, but I do the processing myself
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    Labs here in the states can barely do C41 satisfactorily anymore so real B/W is hopeless.
    When half decent labs used to run B/W they often used replenished Tmax developer (or something similar) and I never had any luck with commercially processed b/w.

    I only used them when I didn't have a proper film loading area.

    It's really simple to process your own and you are on the right site to learn everything you wanted and more.

    I highly recommend doing it yourself, if not with these first rolls, at least soon.

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    If you're looking for an Ilford C-41 film, it's called XP2 Super. I agree with the others, though. You may be frustrated with the results you get until you process yourself. That being said, if you're just getting into film, try the XP2 out and see if you like the results. Working with film is not as hard as it first seems and everyone here will help you along the way.
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    If you mention in your profile where you are it'd be helpful. If you're anywhere near me, I might have a few rolls I could trade, but I'd rather not ship it at this point.

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    If you're in the US, there are a number of commercial mail-order outfits that do B&W work. One I've used once or twice, before getting the stuff needed for doing my own B&W, is ABC Photo Lab in Connecticut. I was satisfied with the results I got at the time, but as others have said, doing it yourself will give you better control and is ultimately the way to go.

    One possible issue with commercial photofinishers is that they sometimes use color paper even for B&W prints. It can be tricky to get a good neutral gray from these papers, so you may end up with B&W prints with a slight (or not-so-slight) color cast. This will also happen if you develop a roll yourself and then take the negative strip to a 1-hour lab to get prints. Note that this comment applies to both conventional B&W films and C-41 B&W films.

    As to C-41 B&W films, Ilford XP2 Super has already been mentioned. Kodak has another one, which usually goes by the name BW400CN, although that name is not prominent on the box. BW400CN is available in some local drug stores in my area (Rhode Island), but the Ilford is harder to find locally. Both are good films (although neither pleases everybody), but they differ in one very important respect: XP2 Super has a nearly clear base color, which means it prints well on conventional B&W paper. BW400CN, by contrast, has an orange base color, similar to that on most color print films. This makes the BW400CN easier to print on color paper but harder to print on B&W paper. A digital minilab can likely handle both films tolerably well, but some labs will bungle the XP2 Super and produce prints with ugly color casts. OTOH, some labs (but not most minilabs) will print XP2 Super on B&W paper. Thus, which of these films is better if you don't have your own darkroom depends on the lab you're using. If in doubt, ask the manager of the lab you plan to use. FWIW, my local Walgreens, which uses a Fuji Frontier, produces decent results from both film types; even side-by-side with a print on true B&W paper, the color cast is not objectionable, at least not IMHO. (Others might look at the same prints and disagree, of course.)

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    Read the fine print. If the box and/or cassette sez C-41, then it is designed for the C-41 process. If it don't, then it ain't. Do any of the cassettes you have say C-41 on them?

    Did you try looking on Ilford's Website for your answer before posting here? I can guarantee you that your answers are there. Ilford's C-41 monochrome film is called XP-2 Super.
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    I believe the best place to have B&W done here in the states is contact www.theimageinn.com
    Next to that and few do the kind of quality that Christi does there, is reedyphoto.com in St Pete, Fla and believe it or not reedphoto.com. I have used all three of these sources. Image Inn is actually the best in all matters, She is in Boston, takes a check via mail, very careful and very trusting of your film. Increadible prints!!!
    Reedy Photo has done great work for me. So has Reed Photo. I personally like Reedy a bit more but Reed also does E6 and Reedy does not, but all three work with Delta films from Ilford. I know that is what I shoot.

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    Thanks for the info, everyone.

    Developing isn't new to me, I used to do it all the time in high school, but always used the school's gear. There are a few reasons why I'm reluctant to develop it myself...I recently returned to school to finish my degree and moved back with my parents. The older he gets, the more weird stuff my dad gets worried about, so storing all the chemicals here might not be the best idea (he gets worried about flammables in the house)...plus, I foresee troubles on the whole front of converting the laundry room into a darkroom. I'd rather not piss them off any more than I have to. Also, the money I'd put towards buying all the developing equipment/chemicals, I'd rather put towards more bodies/lenses or a scanner (I know that eventually they'll pay for themselves, but since I haven't shot B&W in over 10 years, I don't know how much of it I'd actually end up shooting. So I don't want to buy all the gear and then realize that I'm not as interested in B&W as I thought I was). Since I'm getting everything scanned (and hoping to get my own scanner soon) it's VERY easy to convert any photo into B&W, I know, I know, it's not the same, but sometimes practicality has to win for reasons mentioned above.

    I might try this at my girlfriend's place...but currently we're living 1.5hrs from each other, so that'll likely have to wait for a bit.

    Oh yes, and I live in Nanaimo, BC and travel to Victoria BC all the time, I really should put that on my profile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2F/2F View Post
    Read the fine print. If the box and/or cassette sez C-41, then it is designed for the C-41 process. If it don't, then it ain't. Do any of the cassettes you have say C-41 on them?

    Did you try looking on Ilford's Website for your answer before posting here? I can guarantee you that your answers are there. Ilford's C-41 monochrome film is called XP-2 Super.
    Yes, I know to look for the C-41 on the film, but I heard rumours that certain B&W films while not C-41 can still be developed in a C-41 facility...obviously that was wrong. Also, when I searched for some of the other alphanumeric codes on the canisters I came up with nothing, so I really didn't have much to go on.

    Yes, I tried Ilford's website, it seems that it's down.

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