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    non perf in a Nikon FM2

    Can you run non perf 35mm in the FM2 or are the perfs needed for the film counter?

    Anyone tried it?

    Thanks in advance.

    Bruce

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    Can I hijack this and expand it to if not what camera can run non perf thats not a microfilm camera!
    I have a tonne of non perf film but no use for it =)

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    No. All traditional 35mm cameras need perforations.

    828 film was 35mm with a backing and no perforations. It is long obsolete but you could possibly use it in such a camera.
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    No, non-perf film cannot be used in 35mm cameras. With that I agree. However, 828 film, along with its backing did have perfs, but only a few, not the regular ones like 35mm. It was more like 126 which also had perfs.

    PE

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    http://cgi.ebay.com/Kodak-35-x-100-F...ht_4790wt_1137


    what is this film for? I thought I read on photonet that on some 35mm cameras if you could thread the take up reel then it might work but I don't remember the specifics.

    I think the FM2 needs the perforations so the film counter advances correctly. I can't open my camera right now...
    it is loaded

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    The Soviet spring-motor driven Leningrad doesn't use or need perforations.
    Very interesting camera for several other reasons as well.....
    M6, SL, SL2, R5, P6x7, SL3003, SL35-E, F, F2, FM, FE-2, Varex IIa

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    The film counter advances on my FM2 - or for that matter most all my cameras, without a roll of film in it so I don't believe perf film is needed for this function. With the FM2 you thread the film into the take up spool so the perf on the film is not required for this either. The perforations probably help keep the film aligned though.

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    The perforations are there so the wind on stops at the correct point to give even frame spacing. Most cameras however will still cock the shutter when you wind on and allow the shutter to be pressed so I think it would work but you would have larger than normal spacing between frames getting larger towards the end of the film.

    The frame counter is usually independent of the perforations and will still count if worked without a film.

    Cameras like my Voigtlander Vito B however also use the perforations and its gear to cock the shutter. This is why you can often find them cheap on ebay as their sellers think the shutter is broken.


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    maybe that film is for some long roll back from when school portraiture was film based.

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    It may have been used for Microfilming! IDK.

    However, consider this. The metal "gears" on the "drive" shafts in 35mm cameras project upwards through the holes just enough to clear the back of the camera and yet go through the film. Without holes in the film, the film is deformed around those "gears" and scrapes on them giving deformed film and scrapings from the surface of the film which is being scratched.

    This is UNGOOD!

    PE

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