Have you considered an F100? It is newer technology and has the option of being compact or larger with the battery pack attached. I started using mine (very recently) without the battery pack and I absolutely love it! It is a surprisingly well-built camera and is a fast performer. Think about it as a D1H with a removable battery pack.
I agree with this post.
Originally Posted by snegron
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Naw, $299 is a normal price for a f5 in fair condition from a private party.
Originally Posted by pentaxuser
I sold two f5's recently for $375, but each were in mint condition.
$140 for an F4s without any issues is pretty low. I'd be asking something closer to $200.
One major advantage of the F100 over the F5 is the ability to see which autofocus point you have selected. With the F5, it's like playing a game of battleship.
Originally Posted by snegron
Keep the F4.
Skip the F5.
Get an F100.
Trade everything, including the Volvo, for an F6.
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If you had neither of these cameras, you should get the F4 if you work with manual focus lenses most of the time, the F5 if you use autofocus most of the time. Both are great cameras but, technologically, the F5 is much more advanced - VR, much faster autofocus, all metering modes available with G lenses, color matrix, etc...I love my F4, but the main thing it has over the F5 is that it takes much longer to go through a set of batteries.
But since you already have a good F4, this particular F5, with its known issues, doesn't seem like a very good trade. Perhaps you should wait for a near-mint one to come along for a really good price? Or at least one that wasn't beaten up by a newspaper photographer.
Maybe you should just find an F6.
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Thinking in the long term, I'd say a superior electronic camera (F5, or the F100 which is an excellent suggestion) along with one or two mechanical, all-manual cameras (FM2, etc) would be wise to add to your working group.
The only real advantage of the F5 over an F100 is the faster motor drive, and frankly that only matters in sports shooting (the F5's servo is fantastic, I remember being amazed by it 14 years ago).
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Still own the F4. The $299 F5 is actually cosmetically worse than my F4, so it doesn't make sense, especially with it seeming to have the same issues that an F4 normally has, AF-wise. I'd be essentially getting N90 performance AF-wise with high frame rate, a mirror lockup, and ability to rewind manually.
The $140 value is wholesale, and is what they'd offer as trade-in, which is better than what KEH offered on their online quote wizard for an EX grade body. My F4 is about high-BGN grade. Has some wear, but nothing major. The bodies I saw @ Glazer's Camera are similar to my F4 cosmetically. They are a bit older than the one I was thinking about getting from Kenmore Camera, but there's no stickiness and the rubber is all intact. Some scratches on the prism and the top covers, but still nice looking. They also seem to AF a lot faster, even though the batteries I tried with them were Duracells, instead of the Energizers. The only issue is that one's priced at $399, and the other's priced @ $429. One of the guys there is going to see if he can get the price of the $399 body down to $325-$340. I might be able to do that, but would have to add some more gear in with the deal. Might have to remove the battery pack from the F-36 drive and just use the F as a manual camera again, with the drive unpowered... Dunno. Will find out Friday.
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This is a very personal choice, but I own both cameras and I use the F5 the most out of all my 35mm cameras (and I have a bunch). I like the feel of the F4 and I do use it a fair amount, particularly with manual lenses, but its autofocus performance is significantly inferior to that of the F5.
I bought my F5 in KEH EX condition for about $400 three or four years ago. It's come down a little since then, I think.
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nikon F4 body is the best platform for manual focus nikon lens, even stick lens babies and holga lenses on them
you get metering, range finder focusing aids, run on aa batteries and are cheap