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    Mice in my AE1?!

    What does a squeak, which occurs when I trip the shutter on my Canon AE1, mean?

    Anything dire?

    Thanks to all who reply.

    With best regards,

    Stephen

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    You have the AE1 squeak? Normal in these cameras, in fact most of the A-series of camera. You will find your shutter speeds slowly becoming less accurate and the risk of jamming becomes more evident. Most repairers recommend replacing the shutter at $150; I have had 3 do this over the years and use the camera till it becomes too annoying. Given the low price of these models, it is not worth repairing in my opinion. I just altered my ISO setting to offset the delay. Best way to avoid this, wind and shoot several times a month to ensure lubrication of the shutter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Mack View Post
    What does a squeak, which occurs when I trip the shutter on my Canon AE1, mean?

    Anything dire?

    Thanks to all who reply.

    With best regards,

    Stephen
    On the net there are three ways of a home fix using a drop of fine oil and hypodermic needle, if you google you can try one of them.

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    > What does a squeak, which occurs when I trip the shutter on my Canon AE1, mean?

    Elsewhere on APUG:
    http://www.apug.org/forums/groups/ca...a1-squeal.html

    How to fix:
    http://www.paradesquare.ca/canon_fd/a_series_chirp.htm

    By the time a camera develops "the Canon squeal," it's probably time
    for a thorough Clean-Lube-Adjustment, a worthwhile investment if
    the camera is otherwise performing satisfactorily.
    Last edited by CanonShot; 01-13-2011 at 07:44 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    ***How to fix:
    http://www.paradesquare.ca/canon_fd/...s_chirp.htm***

    Well my AV1 has a very mild cough (same problem) and if I wanted to try a home fix would try "the unscrewing the bottom plate method", and apparently using a torch you can see a brass flywheel (going from memory of reading about it) and add a drop of oil near that.

    Something like this in German (some pictures), but there is an English version I've seen:-
    www.aldo-net.com/Canon
    Last edited by Excalibur2; 01-14-2011 at 04:02 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    I don't remember a brass flywheel i there but it doesn't matter.
    The mirror squeak has no effect on shutter speeds either. the shutter is released when the mirror reaches the top of it's travel & hits the shutter release lever.
    Anyway, remove the lens. There are four screws visible on the front plate, remove them and lift the plate straight off.
    The lens mounting ring has four screws holding it on. Remove the TOP LEFT screw. The mirror governor is just under this hole. with your oiler 2-3mm into the hole and angled away from the mirror box apply a drop of oil. Work the shutter several times and as the oil flows downward it will lube the shafts. Put all the screws back & you're good to go.
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    This is a very common problem with the AE1. I've never had any luck fixing it myself.

    The shutters in Pentax, Nikon and Minolta seem a lot more reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djacobox372 View Post
    This is a very common problem with the AE1. I've never had any luck fixing it myself.

    The shutters in Pentax, Nikon and Minolta seem a lot more reliable.
    You can't paint all Canon shutters as unreliable. This problem is common to the Canon A-series, no others.

    And that said my 1979 model has no shutter issues, still going strong.
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    My AE-1P squeaks at '250 and above. I've never had a single complaint about any of the images from the camera that was actually caused by the camera. I am not sure how important it is to fix the problem. I certainly do not want to spend $150 fixing a camera that cost me $20 with the lens and seems to work fine. I may try that home fix, though.
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    Well I did a lot of checking into it (online) when mine got really really bad. The squeak is just one symptom of a larger problem. Sometimes oiling that particular gear (the quick fix) can be cheaper, but might not fix the other problems tied to it. Namely, your shutter timing starts slipping. To me, if the shutter doesn't work like it should (that's 1/2 your main control!!) it's a problem that should be fixed.

    Good news is it'll last another 20 years after you invest $150.


    P.S. However if you can't afford the CLA, it will work just fine. My squak started getting really bad after 5 years, and I shot on another 5 not knowing/realizing this was abnormal. Then again, I'm not sure if it is the cause of some yellow tints on some of my photos now that I think about it. If your pics look fine and you don't have the dough, you can put it off.

    I did find it VERY hard to be inconspicuous at one law school event I was asked to take pictures for. Every time it squealed eyes darted over to me, and the room wasn't all that full. Makes folks self-concious if you're doing people-shots.
    Last edited by Markster; 01-14-2011 at 08:45 PM. Click to view previous post history. Reason: added postscript
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