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    Quote Originally Posted by fstop View Post
    Usually you touch Leica's with your fingers and lots of cash, the early Rs are Minolta XEs in disguise, so when you slam Leica you are slamming Minolta too.
    So why don't you buy a Minolta then; why waste all that cash?
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    Even at Leica , Zoom lenses do not reach the quality of Primes. You can buy R4 for 80 dollars from keh com and continue with your Elmar 24 or Summicron 50 for 400 or so dollars.

    1000 dollars rest with you , if your R4 broke , you buy another one with another 80 dollars.

    To use Leica lens on Canon is a murder , not less than that , its a yob business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pumalite View Post
    So why don't you buy a Minolta then; why waste all that cash?
    uh thats why I have Minolta XEs

    But I do like a nice Leica.

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    even if you can inspect before you buy
    don't bother buying it ...
    if you have your heart set on buying
    this sort of gear
    get it from a dealer with a return policy
    because if you decide you don't want it
    or something is wrong with it, it will be bad blood between
    you and your friend, but just biz-ness with a dealer.
    besides if its a minolta you would be saving a lot of $$ just buying a minolta
    ( from a dealer or someone that will let you return it ) ..

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    That 80-200 is probably the best in that range ever (the much praised Nikon AI equivalent doesn't come close). It is also considered to be better than most of Leica's non-Apo primes in that range (and that's really saying something!).
    It alone currently goes for at least €800 (typical used price).

    The R8 is a very nice, if heavy, camera with a great viewfinder (arguably even better than Olympus OMs). It goes for around €400.

    The motor drive won't be usable.

    The other lenses should be very good (the 50mm Summicron came in several versions over the years). The M-Elmarit *could* be used as a decent macro lens using bellows and adapters.
    You can forget using those lenses on other cameras, except Canon EF...

    I'd go for it and give it a try. In Germany at least, you could easily get the same money back for the various items.
    That it's discontinued now means nothing: the price drop occured immediately after it was discontinued.

    Also, beware of most answers to Leica-related posts:
    1) most people haven't ever used one and don't know what they're talking about.
    2) many answers will be irrationally and wildly one-sided, whether for or against...


    BTW: The R3-R5 models were quite a bit more than rebranded Minoltas: the R4 & 5, at least, had competely redesigned shutters and mirrorboxes and consequently better viewfinders than their Minolta cousins.
    (I'm not even bringing lenses into the equasion, though Minoltas are definitely not slouches!)
    The R8 is quite a different animal from the R3-R7 series, being much more like the Leicaflexes in feel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grainy View Post
    I have Canon, Pentax and Olympus SLR's...
    Then getting the Leica won't give you anything you don't have except a big hole in your pocket. I would pass, personally. That's a lot of money to pay for redundancy...and yet another camera system to buy parts and accessories for down the road.

    And yeah, Mustafa; he is obviously Arabian. OBVIOUSLY.
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    From the video remark I suspect the OP is also planning to use the lenses on a digital slr with video, and I know that it is usual to use old manual lenses on them. Mostly used are the canon 5D dslr, so I think the lenses would have some use for the OP. But of course the value of the price is another matter.

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    Thanks for all the replies. Sounds like I have to do a little more thinking before I decide. Even though the gear is new in box, it's still a lot of $$ to spend on old and discontinued gear.

    Daveandiputra: Yes, if I buy this kit I plan on using the lenses for video on my dSLR also. It would be a win win situation if I could use the quality glass on the R8 and my analog Canon EOS, and also have lenses with super smooth manual focus and good optical quality for video on my dSLR.

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    Grainy ,

    If you want to shoot video with Canon , use LOMO Anamorphic Square Front Cinema lenses.They start from 700 dollars and climb to 25000. Directors are begging for these lenses and they go very parallel with Canon Sensor , Software color gamut. They show flesh unbeliviably like 70s Elite Pornography.
    There are many test shots with these lenses on canon at vimeo.
    There is a camera as Z series Sony with Zeiss lenses and find Irina Shatalova at Vimeo and watch her North Sea Lighthouse Keeper video. I am very optimistic about digital when I saw this video. May be 10 years later , cameras and Zeiss lenses will go with same quality less than 2500 dollars new.

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    Check KEH and see if it is a bargain. If it is, I'd give it a go. Leica gear is always simple to resell. I've never used the Leica SLR stuff, but I can tell you that their lenses really are the best optically and mechanically....but you definitely pay for the privilege. If the price is good, it is basically an extended rental where you can get your money back at the end if you don't like it. They are not the same as Minolta lenses.

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