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    Introduction and a few questions

    Hell everyone,

    I am a 32 years old happily married man with a one year old daughter living in Istanbul. I have been working as a full time financial reporting specialist in corporate world for the last 8-9 years. My interest in photography started two years ago with buying a Nikon D5000 DSLR. I was aiming to buy a point-and-shoot camera to document our trip to NYC and once I was in B&H I saw this camera in refurbished department with a good price and thought why not try it. After taking breath taking pictures (which I thought they were at the time lol ) I said i want to pursue this as a hobby. I took couple of photography classes and bought some gear which some of them later turned out to be bad investments. Eventhough I tought I learned fair amount of things I never got to achieve taking the pictures I want and everytime I tried to learn what's wrong I kept getting lectured about buying a new camera or another gadget by digital photography enthusiasts. Then I thought to myself if I keep listening to this I have to keep spending the entire household income just to take better pictures.
    I honestly don't consider myself as a person who posseses skills to become an artist nor do I have what it takes to become a great photographer one day. To me photography is a way of adding meaning to life and be creative, look or see differently as well as immortalize special moments of the people I love in the best possible way.

    Anyway one day I was doing a research on exposure -which I happen to make mistakes quite often in that area- I read that digital cameras are not as forgiving as the film cameras so off I went reading and watching things about film photography, try to learn the advantages of shooting film. First thing I learned was every film camera is a full frame That stroke me as how profoundly little I know about photography in general. I was so wrapped up in a buble of consumer culture that I ignored the fundementals. I didn't know that I need to buy seperate films for different ISOs or B&W. I've probably gotten far better in photoshop then I did in taking good images. I learned how to get rid of blemishes on skin but didn't exactly understand how light actually works. There was another problem, I kept taking so many pictures thinking I will correct them later which turned out to be a bigger problem as I simply don't have enough time to do that. Because it didn't cost anything I take pictures unconciously.
    For several other reasons in addition to these I recently took interest in getting into analog photography. I especially like B&W and thinking to get into that first. I will probably don't give up on my DSLR at first as it will play a role for me for a foreseeble future. I am certainly not a purist or a romantic, I simply want to take better pictures without spending my daughters college tuition and also disipline myself to look for a better image rather than taking random images.

    I am looking for the possibilities of using an SLR along with my existing dSLR. I am thinking to buy a Nikon F80 so that the lenses I currently have would fit and also provide me AF (I've tried manual focus it is just not for me).

    I'd like to have your comments and recommendations in entering the analog photography world.

    All the best

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    Siyah beyaz film dünyasına hoş geldin Doğuş.

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    Hi

    Welcome

    The big woooooa about film is in dark room under dim red light watching the print slowly appear...

    If your family have antique negatives from box cameras you contact print them again... you don't need total darkness drapes with night outside does.

    http://www.ilfordphoto.com/aboutus/page.asp?n=32

    you need to review all of ilfords site...

    HCB 's (the doyen of street candit photography) first Leica did not have a meter or rangefinder.

    You preset to 4 meters, /125 @ /5.6 400ISO you adjust for focus like boxer for jab using foot work.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_16_rule

    A child who can juggle three balls as test subject you want to get all three in air every shot.

    You family may have antique point and shoot 35mm borrow. It won't have switch on or auto focus delay.

    Beg a daylight loader, changing bag, and home development kit from ex film shooter. Hope for free enlarger as well.

    The bulk (95%) of my photos are using 1960 cameras.

    http://www.cameraquest.com/canonp.htm
    http://www.cameraquest.com/rfbuy.htm

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    Hi,

    Welcome to APUG . You live in the most photogenic city in the world. Buy any nikon SLR and nikkor 50mm f1.8 AF-D. This is all you need. You can use this lens on DSLR bodies (on some dslr without focus, but all other functions will work).

    For films - all of them are good: buy Ilford or Kodak ISO 400 B&W film - like HP5 plus or TriX. If you scan only negative - you will be ok, but this is only half way. True beauty and superiority over your digital results you will get only when you will hold fiber based Silver Gelatin Print in your hand (go for 20x30 cm size or bigger). If you have money that somebody else is doing developing of films and prints - good for you. If you want to do it yourself - on the beginning it will be hard, sometimes frustrating (but also fun) - and on the end cheaper.

    Yoda style advice for analog photography: Patient you must be and carry on you must, I would say, hmmm .

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    I love that Yoda style advice, Darko

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    @Omar, I've started to follow you on google+ hope you don't mind.
    Can I bother you to ask a few things time to time?
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    @Darko, I currently have 3 lenses. 18-55mm kit lens that comes with the camera, a 50mm 1,8 AF-S Nikkor and a Tamron 70-300mm 4.5 AF-S F mount. I think this will get me going with the Nikon SLR as well.
    I don't think I will try to do my own printing for a long time. I've got other things to sort out about my photography first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogus Utkucu View Post
    @Darko, I currently have 3 lenses. 18-55mm kit lens that comes with the camera, a 50mm 1,8 AF-S Nikkor and a Tamron 70-300mm 4.5 AF-S F mount. I think this will get me going with the Nikon SLR as well.
    I don't think I will try to do my own printing for a long time. I've got other things to sort out about my photography first.
    Then just a SLR body will do. I have (between bunch of other cameras) F65. I got it for 5 euros. It can work with those new lenses, super light and good. Put 50mm on it and you are ready to go. For sure you can find someone to make couple of gelatin prints in Istanbul (or just ask here on APUG when you will have negative ready to print) .

    I did not planned to print my own prints at all - I was happy with lab prints. Until I got my first Silver Gelatin Print from a lab. It was photo from Istanbul btw - and after that ... 10 years later still making my prints like crazy .

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    Some rules possibly suspect

    http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/compatibility-lens.htm

    but download the F80 user manual before you buy

    http://www.butkus.org/chinon/nikon/n.../nikon_n80.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmas View Post
    For F80 and F65 with AF-S lenses you get:

    OK
    P, S, A, M

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogus Utkucu View Post
    Can I bother you to ask a few things time to time?
    You're always welcome.

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