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    Oh woe is me. For he who praises digital (In some environments) has been forced (Asked) to reduce himself to lowly analog Photographers users group.

    J/k

    Hi Im Valthonis. Some of you may remember me by being the 1000th member to register for Apug. Im Aggies Son by the way. She constantly prattles on about,

    "Apug This..."
    "Apug That..."
    "This guy on Apug is a shithead...."

    Honestly its driveing me Freaking Nuts. Shes had alot of friends on here that she likes to talk to and have fun with. So im happy for her.

    My interests are multimedia, Digital video work as well as some web design. But im hopeing to get into 3d animation because that stuff is cool. Me and mom usualy spar about digital photography being better or worse than analog photgraphy so ill may my views clear.

    1. Digital is superior for the strictly snapshot photo. IF you want something quick and dirty its the way to go.
    2. Color Digital photography is on the level of color Analog photography. Its just alot of expense up front.
    3. Black and white Analog is superior to Digital at this time. However This does not mean that digital wont improve. Look at how fast Analog is inovateing with new technology, now look how fast digital is advanceing.


    There are two areas where digital fails that would vastly improve its market worthiness.

    1.The ability to capture multiple layers of light on a 3d CCD imager. Current techniques all capture light on a FLAT CCD imager. If the CCD were designed almost like a forrest of angled CCD cells it could capture a more 3d image and mimic traditional Chemical processes that occur within film.

    2. The export medium, Paper essentialy, is also simply flat paper that the image is layed down upon. In Analog the image is transfered in a 3d chemical medium (Film) to a 3d Export Medium (Photo paper.) It retains its depth and vibrancy the whole way through. Digital is a flat image put on a flat piece of paper. Give the Piece of paper a chemical surface, much like analog photo paper, and then combine that with the 3d CCD imager and you will have a more level playing field.

    Digitals strengths lie in:
    Convience, Its alot less time and work to make a didital photograph. Just point, shoot, and then upload to your printer and Viola! Instant print.

    Analog strengths lie in:
    Image qulity.
    Adaptability.
    Interchangeability.
    Worth over lifetime.

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    what happens to the image if the hard drive bips when you are saving the image? Are you willing to continually re-archive all your saved images on each new different medium that the market place comes out with. The phrase "8 track" comes to mind. These are just a few of the concerns I have with digital. Plus I don't shoot 35 and the back for a 4x5 or 8x10 costs the equivalent of the gross national debt of several small countries. Just don't get me started.

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    Oh I forgot welcome aboard.

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    There are many people who use digital techniques here. They just discuss them elsewhere.

    Welcome.
    flickr--http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidagoldfarb/
    Photography (not as up to date as the flickr site)--http://www.davidagoldfarb.com/photo
    Academic (Slavic and Comparative Literature)--http://www.davidagoldfarb.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by lee
    what happens to the image if the hard drive bips when you are saving the image? Are you willing to continually re-archive all your saved images on each new different medium that the market place comes out with. The phrase "8 track" comes to mind. These are just a few of the concerns I have with digital. Plus I don't shoot 35 and the back for a 4x5 or 8x10 costs the equivalent of the gross national debt of several small countries. Just don't get me started.

    lee\c
    IMHO, Its IDEOTIC to have a 4x5 DIGITAL or 8x10 DIGITAL back. That removes all the convience and portability that are the halmarks of digital photography.

    Ive personaly never seen a hardrive 'Bip' as you describe. Computer technology is a bit diffrent from the 8 track. If you want Maximum image safety for any kind of data, you initilize a Raid Level 1. This requires two hard drives of the same type, size, and bus interface. What the Raid does is Mirror the data onto the second drive. That way if one drive fails, you still have a copy of the data on the other so you can replace the broke drive.

    There are all sorts of storage mediums for digital information. CD's and DVD's degrade over time as do Magnetic media. The only costant upgradeing idd do to maintain my data over time would be new hard drives to keep up with bus interface changes. Hard drives are cheap. $.80 per Gigabyte for a 200gb drive. Thats a steal compared to what it used to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Goldfarb
    There are many people who use digital techniques here. They just discuss them elsewhere.

    Welcome.
    Im affiliated with Aggie, so i just use her equipment. I dont really take any digital pictures and have little intrest in photography as a static medium. Im interesting in Moveing pictures..... :bag:

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    I for one am glad Tim that your a digihead, without your help in learning to work my website I would have thrown my computer out the window by now. Welcome aboard and when your mother tells you to take out hte trash just hit delete!

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    "Im affiliated with Aggie"...lol....

    I have never heard a son refer to his mother as an "affiliate"...lol...

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