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    There's no accounting for taste: http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrerabelo/70458366

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    Kertesz wasn't fond of printing either. Early on he turned over his printing needs to a printer. Penn was very involved with printing but I know he had people printing for him, likewise Avedon. Many of the very successful photographers didn't have time to print. Then theirs all those photographers who only shot chromes. And C printing doesn't contain as many variables and lots of photographers used to turn over their color printing to full time printers, especially dye transfer. For me, I love, love, love printing, but I don't think it's the end all. I'd rather see a poorly printed exciting image, than a virtuoso print of a boring image. I don't think photography always has to be socially relevant either, although it's great when it is. As a good friend once said to me, it either works or it doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baachitraka View Post
    "Only dead fish follow the stream" - Others may caught by hungry bear. ;-)

    Still waiting for my virtual mentor...
    Who cares. Make your own honest choices.

    As for that link a few posts ago, bah. That's only a matter of personal taste. Asking if people can make a photograph like that is silly. Some people would want to, some not. I for one, would not want to make a picture like that. It means nothing to me aesthetically or otherwise, and to me it does little to capture time and place in any real way. It's just a non-descript sliver of time, a snapshot. I could just as easily post links to one of George Tice's urban landscapes, or Ansel's Frozen Lake and Cliffs, or one of Stephen Shore's pictures and ask if anyone on APUG could make one. It doesn't make any sense.

    As for me, I don't believe in the separation of image and print. I'm rarely interested in a crap print of a good picture, nor a good print of a crap picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius Glass View Post
    Often my latent images are better than the developed film or the print. Undeveloped film is always perfect, because no one can see anything to complain about.
    Interesting thought. I'd add most peoples' negative scans on here look better to me than their prints.

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    Well, I can report that Clive's print is even nicer than his scan. Beautiful image.
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    This is an artist's choice, like any other facet of their work -- an artist has the right to make their own choices about how and what they produce.

    He'll be remembered centuries from now. That's because of his images...not much else I figure I need to know.
    "Never criticize someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes. That way, you're a mile away and you've got their shoes."

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    Quote Originally Posted by baachitraka View Post
    If you give a birth to a child and you are not interested to raise them up, how can they be such a master piece.
    Pretty sentiment, but ultimately meaningless. Printing is not that hard. If you have nothing on the negative, a printer is not going to turn it into a masterpiece.

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    When I don't understand something that many other people do, I try harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baachitraka View Post
    Henri Cartier-Bresson ... said: "I've never been interested in the process of photography, never, never. Right from the beginning. For me, photography with a small camera like the Leica is an instant drawing." -Wikipedia.
    The High Museum recently had an Henri Cartier-Bresson exhibit "The Modern Century" which was put together by MOMA. The photographs show great imagination, but honestly, most of the prints were totally mediocre. The best ones were from the end of his life where he worked closely with a master printer. These are all signed big, with ink, and embossed, as well. (You can see this in the documentary available on Netflix.)

    Keith Carter is a very fine print maker who has always printed his own work, as well as an insanely great photographer. Roger Ballen is an amazing photographer who hasn't printed his own work in nearly 25 years, but he's worked with the same printer for all those years and they obviously have a good thing going. Michael Kenna uses assistants to help print.

    Lee Friedlander printed his own work for years, but his most recent work, some of the best of his very long life, is printed by someone else. Irving Penn's work was largely printed by others, as was Avedon's. These guys were so busy making photographs that the printing had to be done by someone else or it would never get done at all. Does anyone care who printed Avedon's work? No, it's AVEDON.

    There are plenty of "print makers" who can process their film to a tenth of a stop and make gorgeous prints of nothing worth looking at. Many people get caught up in the "process" and never get the "why" and the "what." They simply see that Weston was at Big Sur and the photos were awesome so it must have been Pyro and Amidol and Big Sur, NOT Weston.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParkerSmithPhoto View Post
    Many people get caught up in the "process" and never get the "why" and the "what." They simply see that Weston was at Big Sur and the photos were awesome so it must have been Pyro and Amidol and Big Sur, NOT Weston.
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