Thanks Tom and Rbultman (and everyone who took the time to read my little rant).
I meant to stir the pot a little (sorry if I dirtied the nest, not my intent but looks like the outcome).
I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone/group... I came right out and said it was a rant and I wasn't entirely serious.
I was just struck again that many of the photographers I respect so much can give nary a thought about which lens is sharper, or what camera is for what process.
I like to help folks with technical issues pertaining to equipment I have used, (I am a bit of a fondler-- although nothing sits on a shelf in my studio... it has a use or it moves on)
or processes/issues I have been confronted with.
I genuinely was puzzled from my perspective with people with 1000's of posts and no images. That was my perspective, and the thoughtful responses have re-grounded me as to what sorts of people enjoy/benefit from APUG. And I thank you.
I sort of understand the rant. I'm more likely to take the advice of someone who has posted images. Without seeing what they can do, it's difficult to know how much skepticism to attach to their "expertise". But, there are certain people who i always heed, as I've seen the quality of their work.
I post images for feedback (not ego stroking), especially if I'm doing work I'm unsure of, or new at. I've been lucky to get a lot of help when starting with bromoil and liquid emulsions.
There might be other places on the web better suited to your needs.
Originally Posted by vpwphoto
'Cows are very fond of being photographed, and, unlike architecture, don't move.' - Oscar Wilde
a proud luddite!
hmmm, i'm here on apug because i like the print - process the film, enlarge and process the print, put it on the wall... or hold it in my hand. my work isn't in the class of stieglitz, cameron, strand, karsh, maier, abbot, etc., and i enjoy it, but a book is not likely.
once you go beyond the print aren't you now in the digital world? not a bad place to be, but an investment in dollars, learning and resources, i choose not to make.
i'm a luddite, and a happy one! AND, I do enjoy seeing others posted work - it is inspiring, worthwhile, helpful. fun. am i getting a "free ride"? maybe - i love it!
p.s. vpwphoto - wasn't snarky - it's good to mix things up a little and think about it! thanks
Last edited by JimO; 03-06-2013 at 01:55 PM. Click to view previous post history.
I agree with this. It's good to shake it up a little and get thinking about motivations for what we do.
Originally Posted by JimO
"Make good art!"
- Neil Gaiman
"...the heart and mind are the true lens of the camera".
- Yousuf Karsh
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit".
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I don't post pictures on here because I don't have a good scanner. If I do post a picture here, it will probably be taken with my little digital P&S and be intended to illustrate something about equipment.
Originally Posted by vpwphoto
It is seldom necessary to look at someone's work to grasp what they are saying,even in philosophical discussions. Pictures can add credibility to claims and are useful to illustrate points and questions, no doubt.
I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.
Well, I don't have "thousands of posts" ... you won't find my images in the gallery simply because I am not a subscriber and thus do not have the ability to post in the gallery ... and as there are no "image threads" for non-gallery images hosted elsewhere, I don't post images except in relation to developing or printing problems ... as has been pointed out already, a lack of images visible at APUG ( or indeed anywhere on the interweb) bears no relationship to whether an individual is taking photographs or not.
I'm all for stimulating debate, but this seems a rather tiresome and contrived way to provoke it. Also I have backache and am very grumpy tonight.