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    Quote Originally Posted by cliveh View Post
    Surely if you pencil the negative, you produce a white line when printed, not black.
    Surely "pencil the negative" was spoken derisively about retouching in general.

    But specifically a little pencil right at the edge would lighten an edge and that would enhance edge effects.

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    Maybe the trick for penciling the negatives is to use an eraser!
    Stop worrying about grain, resolution, sharpness, and everything else that doesn't have a damn thing to do with substance.

    http://www.flickr.com/kediwah

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    he could have abraded the negative, and added graphite to the print

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    he could have abraded the negative, and added graphite to the print
    Were EW and Mortensen ever seen together? Hmmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Burk View Post
    Surely "pencil the negative" was spoken derisively about retouching in general.

    But specifically a little pencil right at the edge would lighten an edge and that would enhance edge effects.
    Weston hated retouching and finally got to a point in his portrait business (which he did fairly reluctantly to begin with) when he said he would not retouch anyone's portrait.
    I think he was more likely to print straight from the neg as compared to AA.

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    I have seen many Weston books in my 66 yrs, icl. reading the Daybooks twice, and I recall it being ID'ed as a Partial Soloraization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    weston used a graflex slr ( i think 3x4 ? ) which had a small bellows
    usually the flash attached to the side ( at least with super d's i see images
    with side mounted flashes ..
    like the graflites on the speed graphic ... same orientation .. )
    but my guess is he held the flash over the lens plane ..

    but who knows, i certainly have no idea what he did or how he did it, its just a guess
    OK, I have to admit that I didn't know that he used such small cameras, I always had him in my mind intimately attached to this size of camera:

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.sha...7_0329_lat.jpg


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    So now are we moving back to saying it was a sabattier effect and that penciling does not really mean what its name suggests?

    “The contemplation of things as they are, without error or confusion, without substitution or imposture, is in itself a nobler thing than a whole harvest of invention”

    Francis Bacon

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    Quote Originally Posted by smieglitz View Post
    Were EW and Mortensen ever seen together? Hmmm...
    Mortensen was anathematic to Weston and similar photographers. On one occasion Mortensen was pointed out to Weston in a restaurant, but they didn't become acquainted.

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    I have always loved this image of the knees, in fact one of my darkrooms had this image in reproduction on the wall for inspiration.

    I do a lot of solarization's, and if it is one it is a negative solarization, using a metol only developer.
    The black maki line only is produced this way , a white maki line is produced with a print solarization.
    If you want both then one needs to flash the neg and flash the print.

    I really doubt this is one , as I would think we would see much more of this kind of work from him, I believe as most here it is a specific lighting condition, that is really , really cool.

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