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    Quote Originally Posted by David H. Bebbington
    I tried this and noted to my surprise that #1 on the charts is a picture with 5165 views, with several other having racked up numbers in the thousands as well. I must say, while these pictures are good, they do not strike me as being as superior to the other gallery pictures as these numbers might suggest.
    Hi David

    When I go into the 'All APUG Subscriber Galleries' and review results by 'Views high and low' it comes up with Thomassauerwein, whose 58 images have been viewed 23249 times. Likewise with Cheryl Jacobs, her 61 images have been viewed 21597 times. I think this is possibly a a good indicator of whose work one might want to look at first to get a general idea of the quality of work at APUG. David, you must being doing something different than me or maybe i am not explaining it properly.

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    Without meaning to reflect in any way on the worthiness of people's work in the gallerys, keep in mind that the gallerys used to be structured differently than they are now. Earlier on, every time a comment was posted to a photograph, the 'graph moved back to the beginning of the gallery postings. Thus, for example, one of my images that received a LOT of comments kept being returned to the beginning of the list where it could, in effect, start all over again. When Sean changed the default way that images were displayed in the gallery, 'number of views' declined considerably because they'd get to the second or third page much faster where fewer people bother to look. Also...the number of subscribers posting images has vastly increased so that also propels them along more quickly as well. And folks who only post to their own gallery rather than the standard or critique gallerys 'disappear' even faster. Lastly, of course, the gallerys are now subscriber only, where once they were able to be viewed by anyone visiting this site.

    Another thing to consider is that some people do not consider posting scans of their work to fairly represent it's considerably higher quality when seen 'in person', so many of those folks rely on print exchanges and such to have their work seen...not on views in the gallery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jovo
    Without meaning to reflect in any way on the worthiness of people's work in the gallerys, keep in mind that the gallerys used to be structured differently than they are now. Earlier on, every time a comment was posted to a photograph, the 'graph moved back to the beginning of the gallery postings. Thus, for example, one of my images that received a LOT of comments kept being returned to the beginning of the list where it could, in effect, start all over again. When Sean changed the default way that images were displayed in the gallery, 'number of views' declined considerably because they'd get to the second or third page much faster where fewer people bother to look. Also...the number of subscribers posting images has vastly increased so that also propels them along more quickly as well. And folks who only post to their own gallery rather than the standard or critique gallerys 'disappear' even faster. Lastly, of course, the gallerys are now subscriber only, where once they were able to be viewed by anyone visiting this site.

    Another thing to consider is that some people do not consider posting scans of their work to fairly represent it's considerably higher quality when seen 'in person', so many of those folks rely on print exchanges and such to have their work seen...not on views in the gallery.
    A post well worth repeating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthewt
    I have work in the gallery. I would be so bold to say that I am the best. I have sold work from the gallery as well. Not many sales, but a few. Thanks for looking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davec101
    Hi David

    When I go into the 'All APUG Subscriber Galleries' and review results by 'Views high and low' it comes up with Thomassauerwein, whose 58 images have been viewed 23249 times. Likewise with Cheryl Jacobs, her 61 images have been viewed 21597 times. I think this is possibly a a good indicator of whose work one might want to look at first to get a general idea of the quality of work at APUG. David, you must being doing something different than me or maybe i am not explaining it properly.
    What I did was go into the Standard Gallery and select "Sort By Views" and "Descending." I tried what you suggest, which worked and among other things revealed myself at #72!
    I feel what others have said about the way the galleries work, and the changes to this, have had an effect on the figures. For example, in the case of Thomassauerwein, 58 images viewed 23249 times means an average of just over 400 views per image. With the present system, I don't see anyone getting this number of views per image, no matter how good these are.

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    Another route is to click on a participant's name or avatar in the forums, and navigate to the link that will show all their images posted in the galleries, and/or if they've listed their personal website, you can find their work there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David H. Bebbington
    I tried this and noted to my surprise that #1 on the charts is a picture with 5165 views, with several other having racked up numbers in the thousands as well. I must say, while these pictures are good, they do not strike me as being as superior to the other gallery pictures as these numbers might suggest.
    David, that one with 5165 views may have been one of mine. It seems that when one of the big site revisions went into effect, a couple of mine suddenly accumulated those large numbers of views. I have no idea of when it occurred or why, just that all of a sudden, they were there.
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    Who knows why a given image is looked at. All you see is a thumbnail image on each sheet. It has to be one of two things: something about the image or the way it is laid out that catches our immediate attention. Once inside, it might not be as good as you thought. Another reason people go into a certain image is they are friends with the member or like this person's other work and so they look further. On the other hand, one might not like that person and even if he/she is a good photographer, the work might not be looked at or no comment given. Some do a lot of experimentation and some do none. That gets people looking or not looking...depending on ones likes. And lets not forget subject matter....portraits, landscapes, flowers, houses, etc. Its all in what grabs your attention. As far as past comments on this thread...I agree that past the first or second sheet of the gallery, I don't look further. In fact, after a few days, I will deleat my own images believing the image will no longer be seen. I do think some galleries should be set up by subject matter.

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    Just a few thoughts...

    Asking "which photographers are the best" is a lot like asking "which film is the best" and the answer is "it depends".

    What kind of photography do you do? What kind do you like to look at? What kind of light moves you? What subject matter most draws your eye? I could tell you that Diane Arbus is the best photographer ever, and a landscape lover would call me a liar.

    Don't confuse popularity with quality.

    I would suggest that you read through as much old APUG stuff as you can, and when you find a member whose comments and perspective interest you, search for their work. It's a lot more fun, and a lot deeper, than simply being told that so-and-so is good.

    - CJ

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    not looking for inspiration!

    Phil and banana,
    I'm not looking for inspiration or aesthetic/spiritual/metaphysical guidance. I just think it would be interesting to see which photographers on the APUG galleries make you weep of make you want to cry?
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