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    I for one don't worship him for his celebrity. I find great value in what he has said and many of his photographs are indisputable masterpieces.

    Didn't your mom ever tell you that if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by holmburgers View Post
    I for one don't worship him for his celebrity. I find great value in what he has said and many of his photographs are indisputable masterpieces.

    Didn't your mom ever tell you that if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all?
    Gee, should make sure my "Play Nice" filter is working next time.

    A whole lotta water and images have gone under the bridge since HC-B put his Leica down in the 70s. Great images but not holy relics.

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    I'm just sending some back your way

    Not holy relics, but who here said they were? That's all...
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    "many of his photographs are indisputable masterpieces."

    Hmm. I think you said it, right? Let's give the canonical stuff a rest.

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    *long and heavy sigh*

    Anyways.... as much fun as I'm having discussing this with you....
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    I like it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGW View Post
    Artistic merit aside, HCB's work is subject to a great deal of celebrity worship, something not renowned for its critical edge. Don't find his post hoc analysis of his own work all that revealing. Didn't find much of value in Patel's fawning reminiscence.
    What a crack of BS! So you're saying that the only reason his work is established/appreciated is because of "celebrity worship" who have no business in being critics? Now my question is, aside from giving an opinion, what and who puts YOU in a position to offer a better, critical analysis of his work? Also, what images from other, less celebrated artists, do you consider to be Holy Relics?

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    Lots of people blather endlessly about HC-B's "greatness," not so many think through or discuss how the consensus came about. That's how celebrity worship, being famous for being famous, works like something that's thrown over many artists to avoid much if any critical thinking about their work. If you're OK with that, fine. I'm not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGW View Post
    Lots of people blather endlessly about HC-B's "greatness," not so many think through or discuss how the consensus came about. That's how celebrity worship, being famous for being famous, works like something that's thrown over many artists to avoid much if any critical thinking about their work. If you're OK with that, fine. I'm not.

    I'm not fine with that at all but I don't think you are correct in your assessment. If your thinking is indeed logic, then who are the artists who have gotten the proverbial short end of the stick, with their glorious, but largely ignored, body of work?

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    Yes, the assumption that I'm one of these "worshippers" is insulting. The truth is, I came to the conclusion that I like his work and found something in it that directly affected me by myself. Sure I was pointed to it by the fact that he's well known, but I didn't "latch on" to him simply because I'm a lemming or something. There's enough stuff that I dislike, against public applauding, to prove this fact.

    But ultimately, I don't care to convince you.
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