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    COPYING NEGATIVES; 46mm 70mm

    Hello everyone. I'm not sure this is in exactly the right place, but it was the closest subforum I could find. Anyway, I just won 1000 feet of 70mm CDU II in an online auction and I was wondering how I could best go about copying pictures with 70mm. Is a standard medium format camera suited to the job or is the only reliable option a medium format copying stand with built-in camera body. Are there any cheap 70mm copiers out there? Also, what the hell is 46mm film? I've asked this question many times before and haven't gotten a straight answer. I've never seen a 46mm camera either, hence my confusion. Thanks for your help.

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    When I used my Omega C760XL enlarger it had the provision of removing the light head and in it's place omega had a device that allowed a camera to be mounted. I would think that medium format camera would mount to this and then one could copy using this arrangement. The only problem that I see is that you will need to cut down the 1000 ft length into something more manageable or find a 70 mm ong roll back for your camera.

    I am not sure what you are wanting to accomplish but this might work for you.

    I am not sure of 46 mm film, having not encountered it before myself.

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    46mm is bulk 127.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 127
    46mm is bulk 127.

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    Yep!

    I have several bulk rolls of unperforated 46mm Agfa Color neg in my freezer. I respool it onto 127 spools and shoot it in my Baby Rollei.

    This film is used in long roll 46mm cameras that are/were used primarily by school and department store photographers.
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    46mm was used to shoot "superslides", large square transparecies that fit into a 2" x 2" slide mount.

    For a while IBM standardized it for their slide and multi-image use. I used to free-lance as a multi-image cameraman and because of IBM every place that I worked had the 46mm machinery for their Forox and virtually never used it.
    That is called grain. It is supposed to be there.
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    46mm is also a high-volume portrait format, for things like school portraits. Here are some cameras that shoot 46mm and 70mm:

    http://www.photo-control.com/camerz/index.htm
    flickr--http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidagoldfarb/
    Photography (not as up to date as the flickr site)--http://www.davidagoldfarb.com/photo
    Academic (Slavic and Comparative Literature)--http://www.davidagoldfarb.com

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    Does anyone shoot film for school pictures anymore? I offered to buy both film and processing for my senior picture and Ripcho photography still wouldn't give me the picture on film .

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    I think it's pretty much gone digital, but there's a lot of infrastructure around for film portraits. Full time hand retouchers who have been doing that work for years, I've heard, say that they can retouch a film neg faster with traditional methods than can be done in Photoshop. There's some learning curve in reaching that level of skill, but if you've been smoothing out teenage faces for years, it can be done.
    flickr--http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidagoldfarb/
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    But you have to pay a skilled professional to do film and you can hire a high school kid at min. wage to do photoshop.
    That is called grain. It is supposed to be there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flotsam
    But you have to pay a skilled professional to do film and you can hire a high school kid at min. wage to do photoshop.
    From the guys working for Ripcho that I've talked to lately (most not much older than myself) this is essentially true. Of course, this school kid isn't going to be getting a job at that shithole because he wants to take artistic pictures. The results I've seen indicate that most pictures aren't even run through photoshop. I guess most people like palid skin tones though. Go figure.

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