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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Chinn
    There is a substantial market to provide it as a niche product and from what I gathered at the Texas workshop more and more people wanting to use it.

    Perhaps Michael could give us some input on what we, as AZO users, can do now to help make that a reality.
    I don't need Michael to tell me that...what we can do is BUY IT! If enough people continually pay for it, it will remain a mainstream product.

    I think the notion of its becoming a niche product is a fantasy. Products made in capital and labor intensive heavy industries don't become niche products when the market dries up. They disappear.

    The barriers to entry into such an enterprise are too high for it to re-emerge as a cottage industry. If not enough people support the manufacture of photographic paper, it will go the way of vinyl phonograph records and typewriters. There are still people out there using these things, but nobody is manufacturing them.

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    Buying AZO will not make a difference to Kodak if they have already decided they will not renew production. Buying it may convince another mfg that a similar paper is a viable product.

    I have gathered from the previous posts in this thread that Michael Smith is actively working with a different mfg to keep some kind of a chloride contact printing paper on the market be it an AZO "clone" or similar paper.

    To rephrase my question to Michael, is there anything we can do as consumers of AZO to help you in your efforts to provide an alternative paper for us?

    And yes, before anyone posts, I have contacted Kodak many times on the subject and out of a dozen emails asking them to run a batch of AZO once every one or two years, the two replies I got back basically said Kodak has currently ceased production of AZO and its future continues to be evaluated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c6h6o3
    If not enough people support the manufacture of photographic paper, it will go the way of vinyl phonograph records and typewriters. There are still people out there using these things, but nobody is manufacturing them.
    Vinyl phonograph records and manual typewriters are still being made. Flash bulbs too! :-)
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    I have had a co-worker who used to work at Kodak as a technician in the group that tests papers, make a call to her department seeking information on this topic. Once (and if) i receive any feedback, I will post it here. My guess, though, is that Michael and Paula are on the right track of seeking an alternative manufacturer for an Azo type product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c6h6o3
    The barriers to entry into such an enterprise are too high for it to re-emerge as a cottage industry. If not enough people support the manufacture of photographic paper, it will go the way of vinyl phonograph records and typewriters. There are still people out there using these things, but nobody is manufacturing them.
    Ummn, you need to do some more research. The Vinyl LP record is more successful today than 10 years ago at the height of the CD revolution.

    Note: I'm a historian, not particularly interested in either LP or CD.

    I use CD at home.


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    Plus, some of the best quality vinyl LPs are now being made by specialist manufacturers.

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    My co-worker had no luck getting any info from her contacts at Kodak. Sorry, folks, no inside info coming from me!
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    i know this is getting way off the topic, but I don't think anyone has seriously produced vacum tube radio receivers or amplifiers for many years, yet new tubes for the old units are still being made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Chinn
    i know this is getting way off the topic, but I don't think anyone has seriously produced vacum tube radio receivers or amplifiers for many years, yet new tubes for the old units are still being made.
    Good. I'll take great satisfaction in being wrong about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Chinn
    i know this is getting way off the topic, but I don't think anyone has seriously produced vacum tube radio receivers or amplifiers for many years, yet new tubes for the old units are still being made.
    Tube and hybrid units are being made and are quite en vogue--- and have been already for some years. You probably have not been to a "Audiophile" joint for decades, I guess? Record turntables, tube amps, etc. are all still in production and hot stuff and very serious (especially their price tags). What has vanished are the cheap tube amps since they'd still be a whole lot more expensive than transistor/IC based but at the boundless high-end its very much valves, discrete components and esoteric materials. And most of their owners are probably playing LPs (newly pressed) on them.... :-)
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