If michael and Paula had a life supplly do you think they would go to the expense and time to make lodima paper? No! I have a 1000 sheets of 8x10 Gr2 and the same in gr3. I have 500 sheets of 20x24 Gr2 for my 8x20. but my negatives are not contrasty enought to use the grade two. So Like most of you I have been trying different papers. Yes I just got to like forte and guess what ? maybe I should stop liking papers since the last three I liked are now no longer being made.