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    Quote Originally Posted by c6h6o3 View Post
    sounds like you like it even warmer than i do
    Indeed, Jim, I do like it warm. I print mostly 4x5 so when I mix 500ml of amidol I'm adding a full 3 grams of KBR directly (not in a solution) to the mix. This seems to balance out the slight purple of the selenium toning and ends up with a nice warm rusty look.

    It really is a lovely colored paper straight up though. By far the nicest color of any silver chloride paper I've used - through my experience is admittedly limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn Dougherty View Post
    I print mostly 4x5 so when I mix 500ml of amidol I'm adding a full 3 grams of KBR directly (not in a solution) to the mix.
    It warms the cockles of my heart to hear that another contact printer is making lots of small prints. Almost all the prints I showed at Steve's weekend this year were 4x5. People seemed to respond well to the intimacy of them.

    As to the restrainer in your formula: by my reckoning your concentration of KBr is 20 times that which Michael Smith uses. Doesn't that restrain your developer, like...overly?

    (The arithmetic: 10% solution is 10gr KBr in 100ml of water. Therefore a 30ml measure of 10% solution would contribute 3gr of solid KBr, which is what you use. Since MAS adds 3ml of 10% solution to 1 liter of amidol working solution and you're only using 1/2 liter of working solution, you end up with 20 times the concentration of KBr that he does. Wow.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn Dougherty View Post
    By far the nicest color of any silver chloride paper I've used
    and consistent. I've gotten the same color with Azo but only sometimes. This stuff seems to render it under all conditions. Go figure.
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    Jim,
    something about those 4x5 contacts..... Love em! Looking forward to seeing your work again soon!

    I'd imagine there is some effect upon development though I'm no scientist.... I should mention I started using 5 grams of Amidol to make 500ml of developer. I did this to compensate for what I viewed as a loss of amidol because I was running the Chinese powder through a coffee filter. Maybe in actuality I'm compensating for the KBR? I'm still using a developing time of 1 minute at room temp. Prints are definitely fully developed and the water bath works as always.

    Consistent indeed, though, all my experience thus far has been with the initial test batch.

    P.S. I've also been working on a series of 2 1/4 contacts!

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    Shawn,

    I was filtering my Amidol through a coffee filter too until I read on M&P's site someone suggested a cotton ball in the funnel. I tried it and it worked faster than the coffee filter. So that is how I'm filtering it from now on.

    I add extra Chinese Amidol because of the loss of sludge, ten grams per liter.

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    I am using a #2 cone shaped coffee filter in a Melitta plastic conical single cup coffee brewer. I think that is the KEY. Works far better than the cotton ball in the funnel method (at least it has for me).

    I've added a small pic of the Melitta product.
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    Me thinks Shawn likes his coffee BLACK!!!! Sorry, I couldn't resist.
    Thanks for the info
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgjbowen View Post
    Me thinks Shawn likes his coffee BLACK!!!! Sorry, I couldn't resist.
    Thanks for the info
    Oh god, that's one mistake I'd never want to make... I made sure my "amidol" brewer was a different color! =)

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    Has anyone tried Kodak Polytoner with Lodima? Or at least the substitute that Kodak publishes? I'm thinking of mixing some up, but may not be able to try it myself for quite some time.
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    I did some Lith with Lodima. Worked perfectly. Toned them in Moersch Polysulfide. Perfect.
    Any toner should be tried.

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