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    Isn't it to expensive too ?
    Cheers Søren

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    Only the latest issue?

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    Interesting that the toilet paper thing was mentioned. Because low and behold that is where my latested issue happens to be located. In the bathroom unread! Bought it because of something about doing the Ansel Adams thing; turned out to be a bunch of BS. O well thank God for APUG.

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    Sorry to be crude but you cannot wipe away crap with crap.

    I stopped buying about a year ago. Less inspiring images, more dumbed down and digital than ever before. I flick thru it on the shelf solely to clock the viewpoints listed. The mag now has virtually no content. Even AP with its many ads (which is why I sometimes buy it) takes far longer to read. Op generally can bre read coevr to cover in 10 mins. The real test is picking it up again. With B&W photography you find things you missed or like to re-read....or skipped as they were not right up your street, but read later. With OP the second sitting takes about 30 seconds and is very boring. I stopped buying when I realised that the mag cost £4 and interested me marginally for 5-10 mins tops. Sometimes it is so bad, there are at most 2 pages that remotely interest me.

    There seems to be too much marginal stuff. Outdoor jackets......then compasses, then compass cleaning rags then solutions for cleaning the compass cleaning rags reviewed well it feels like it......If I want outdoor kit or advice on it, there are far better places to go. They should realise that the words 'photography' on the front mean just that. The outdoor bit has been taken too far (it need only be taken so far as not studio work). I think this is just laziness. It is far easier to get in yet another selection of boots for review than to make people really think about their photography. Every now and again they do the responsible 'take care on the mountains' with compasses, winter gear etc. IMHO anyone not sure of how to keep safe on the mountain (without reading about kit in OP) should not be going up period! When they fart on about maps and compasses, gore tex jacket, walking poles etc, how many readers could properly use a map and compass esp in poor weather....1%...less? IMHO it has shot from being one of the best to the worst of the 'proper' photo mags in a vertical dive. When Joe Cornish or similar nature photog is featured, it shows just how badly the rest of the mag misses the point. It has taken on the same probelms that turned practical photography from being passable to awful.

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    What did they do to the paper ?
    It dosn't even work properly when starting up the kiln
    Søren

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    I was also a charter subscriber but I dropped it several years ago only to pick up another subscription around 1998 or 1999. It was at least tolerable until their columnists started dying off. After Galen Rowell died, I totally lost interest. Every issue got tossed out unread until the subscription expired. I never look at it on the newstand.

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    Well I had about the same experience with german Foto Magazin. In the start they had good articles on the different trends and ...(don't know the word). Little by little they were replasede by digital rewievs and ads so after buying two or three copies I never really read I stopped buying it.
    Now I read a swedish magazine and Black&White Photography.
    I know of some magazine covering Nature Photography that are really good but they cross my way to seldom.
    Cheers Søren

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    I still have a subscription since, like Pop Photo, it is one of those dollar a month magazines. There are very few places to see color landscape photography. I agree, though since they got discovered by B&H and Adorama, their editorial content has been tailored to a different demographic. More disturbing to me is they taken a Peterson's Photographic approach to editorial content and crossed the line from reviews to being shills for the advertisers. They are not reviews; they are infomercials. Have you ever read a negative comment in a Outdoor Photography review? I haven't.
    Take care,
    Tom

    EDIT: I wanted to add that I think that William Neil's monthly column is usually well worth reading.
    Last edited by Tom Duffy; 03-17-2005 at 10:22 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juba
    Only the latest issue?

    Cheers

    André
    How true, how true...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stanworth
    When Joe Cornish or similar nature photog is featured, it shows just how badly the rest of the mag misses the point. It has taken on the same probelms that turned practical photography from being passable to awful.
    Tom, I think you are thinking about a different magazine. Joe Cornish has never appeared in Outdoor Photography that I am aware of. There are actually two magazines with similar names. Outdoor Photography is published in the US and Outdoor Photographer is published in the UK by the GMC Group. I have read both, and the US version is much worse. I always consider it to be a treat to find the UK version.
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