THIS MONTHS UK B&W MAG

[Andy K]

Originally Posted by Paul.

Page 80 digital camera listings and also listed is a brand new series digital photography for beginers, a guide to the equipment and cameras you will need. A subject that has been done to death in almost every other photography mag.

I guess my newsagent will be sending mine back then. Last month's was bad enough.

[sausage100uk]

I for one would love a "Darkroom for beginners" article (as long as it was more than a single page).It looks more 7 more likely that the analogue world will soon be confined to the digital realm of the internet (how ironic!)

[Ian Grant]

Give David a chance Andy he's only just taken over as Editor so he won't have decided what was in the new issue.

Also we don't know why Ailsa decided to leave, and that's not fishing for an answer from her either, but remember magazines like B&W aren't run like some US magazines. By that I mean unlike View Camera or Lenswork which are owned by their editor/publisher B&W belongs to a company who have other interests as well and they may well try and excerpt a lot of pressure on what is included in the magazine.

That doesn't mean to say I'm not totally in agreement with your sentiments. Unfortunately I won't see the magazine for at least 2 months, as it goes to my UK address and I'm off travelling . . . . . . Machu Pichu . . . .

I've said earlier I'll give David a chance to get the magazine back on course, I hope you of all people will do the same the magazine has been very good to you

Personally I'll give the magazine a few months but after that if it hasn't improved and dropped the now heavy digital bias I'll leave, and I guess if one or two of the whole page advertisers realise we are leaving they'll consider going too.

Ian

[Andy K]

Originally Posted by Ian Grant

and I'm off travelling . . . . . . Machu Pichu . . . .

To quote from The Life Of Brian, 'You lucky b..'

Originally Posted by Ian Grant

've said earlier I'll give David a chance to get the magazine back on course, I hope you of all people will do the same the magazine has been very good to you

I don't follow, why me 'of all people'? Its been a good read until recently, I've enjoyed seeing the work of others and the Printer's Art series was good until it started including computer imaging, but other than that its a magazine to which I owe no special alliegance, especially when it is featuring more and more content which is of no interest to me. At the rate its going in a years time it might as well change its name to Desaturated Monthly.

[Ian Grant]

Originally Posted by Andy K

To quote from The Life Of Brian, 'You lucky b..'

. . . . . . . as guests of a diplomat in Chile, so almost no accommodation costs So Chile, Peru & Bolivia, in the footsteps of Che . . . . . who was a good B&W photographer . . . I had wanted to go on a workshop in the US after but it's too expensive as our it looks like our last stop is probably Cuba - there are NO flight to the US from CUba !!!!!! I can't understand why. . . . . . . .

It's the wife Andy she's foreign :-)

Originally Posted by Andy K

me 'of all people'?

Sorry muddled you with Leon !!!!!!!!

Ian

[Andy K]

Originally Posted by Ian Grant

. . . . . . . as guests of a diplomat in Chile, so almost no accommodation costs So Chile, Peru & Bolivia, in the footsteps of Che . . . . . who was a good B&W photographer . . . I had wanted to go on a workshop in the US after but it's too expensive as our it looks like our last stop is probably Cuba - there are NO flight to the US from CUba !!!!!! I can't understand why. . . . . . . .

It's the wife Andy she's foreign :-)

Ian

You lucky, lucky b...!

[Black Dog]

Got my copy yesterday.
Likes-First Frame:classic Steichen portrait(maybe a bigger feature in a future issue?)

Editorial:aah, that story about the 2 girls and the HP5+ fair warmed the cockles of my heart!

Albert Watson feature-nice (pauses to stroke chin.........)

Reader Gallery-hmm, all using that funny stuff called film....you never know, it might catch on.

Superstition feature-ditto

Darkroom workshop-just the sort of thing I like to see!

Book Competition-good stuff, how about another one (and bring back the B&W photog of the year comp too)?

Paul Kenny portfolio-Wow!worth buying the mag just for this-very Blakean.

Lens Review-not that interested in new MF kit since I settled on 10x8 but nice pics!

Printer's Art-again just what I want to see and always interesting to see how different printers tackle the same neg.

Eamonn Mccabe-I'm a big Joy Division fan so good to see this.

Dislikes-Too many ads for digigizmos-Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!As for the articles on digital, well I certainly wouldn't object to less, but quite happy to see it covered as another tool.Not keen on digi camera tests-like seeing tests of Chelsea tractors in my MTB mags and covered well enough elsewhere anyway.It's more the slant of some of the digital pieces than the amount per se I dislike-pleased to see the admission (wo!) in one piece this month re running costs of digital versus film.As the great Morrissey said" a rush and a push and this land that we stand on is ours".

[Andy K]

Originally Posted by Ian Grant

Sorry muddled you with Leon !!!!!!!!

Ian

Unrealistically I hope it is the quality of my photographs you mistook for Leon's... a long shot I know!

[Ian Grant]

Originally Posted by Andy K

Unrealistically I hope it is the quality of my photographs you mistook for Leon's... a long shot I know!

Nah the sentiments fine, but what quality. Get of your arse For more delicate American readers : Get off your bottom !!!!

Go on Andy you know you can do it, you can fly, just jump out of the window . . .

Just keep making images . . . .

Ian

[roteague]

Originally Posted by Paul.

Page 80 digital camera listings and also listed is a brand new series digital photography for beginers, a guide to the equipment and cameras you will need.

I just picked up the September issue of Outdoor Photography (B&W's sister publication) and noticed the DSLR listing. I wonder, why they can't also include a 35mm SLR listing at the same time. I keep running into people who are even aware that film cameras are still made.