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Old 02-24-2008, 10:57 AM   #551 (permalink)
 
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Information which David Corfield and the team paid scant regard to in the first place.
What a ridiculous thing to say! Of course David is doing to bring some new ideas to the magazine and of course they are not going to be to everyones taste...

B&W Photography is not published for APUG members alone!

There are some articles that I don't read (traditional as well as digital), but I still thoroughly enjoy the magazine - the last few issues have been even more to my liking!

I do not, however, like the critique section. To me it does not contain anything positive. To be fair critique, either the critic should have been there when the photo was taken (ie. monochrome workshop), or the photographer should be able to put forward their own views.

On the whole though - bl**dy good job David!! I was a bit worried when you first took over, but my worries have been largely unfounded. But please bear in mind - we don't need another Practical Photography Monthly

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Old 02-24-2008, 11:24 AM   #552 (permalink)
 
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I have to say ... Black & White Photography magazine was a far greater help (issue 15 and onwards) than the dogarn HELP files in PhotoShop when I was learning to scan my negatives for display online.

And it is still a help now that I am learning to wet print in a darkroom.

Film isn't everything ...
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Old 02-24-2008, 01:11 PM   #553 (permalink)
 
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[quote=sar-photo;592067]What a ridiculous thing to say!

Simon,

You may think my comment ridiculous, but it was given in the context of what had been proposed and actioned by Fintan.

Fintan suggested that a new "wish list" thread be started of what APUG users would like to see in the magazine. I pointed out that in this thread, many had already explained what they would like to see in the magazine, and because it had not appeared had made further posts expressing their disappointment. Hence, it would appear that David had not paid much regard to comments on this thread - why else would people continue to complain if their ideas / wishes etc. were being taken on board by the team at GMC?

I've never suggested or thought (and I would imagine neither do most APUG users) that the magazine should be produced just for APUG users.

Finally, for what it's worth, I used to work in the publishing world and would have been delighted to have had the quality and quantity of ideas that have been put forward here on some of the publications I worked on.

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Old 02-24-2008, 02:00 PM   #554 (permalink)
 
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Been done P.U, by les McLean.

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Thanks Stoo. Which issue? I don't know the price of back issues but if it isn't outrageous I might investigate obtaining it if I could find out what else that issue contained.

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Old 02-24-2008, 02:46 PM   #555 (permalink)
 
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Thanks Stoo. Which issue? I don't know the price of back issues but if it isn't outrageous I might investigate obtaining it if I could find out what else that issue contained.

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P.U

Prescysol was covered in two issues. In the December 04, issue number 41. Les compairs it with Pyro and Rodinal. Also in that issue is an interview titled childs Play, featuring the very beautiful photographs of Cheryl Jacobs(six pages) Lee Frost on location. The Portfolio of Seamus Ryan(bloody hell Seamus, put some weight on since that photo!) Printers art features the gone digital Julien Busselle, whos work I much admire. Trever Crone and Tom Richardson. Hand colouring by Tony Worobiec. I have to stop here, this issue is superb.

Then...In February 05 issue number 43, Les tests the Prescysol using stand development. In this issue we have the work of lee Miller, Lee Frost again. Some reportage in Aus. The Portfolio of Gerry Johansson, which is very nice...www.gerryjohansson.com Tom Richardson, whos web site is well worth the visit, in the Printers Art again, and a peep in to David Herrods Darkroom. All good stuff.

As an aside...

Issue 2...Infrared goes digital
Issue 3...digital conversion from colour to black and white.
issue 4...dodge and burn the digital way
Issue 5...creating grain and atmosphere the digital way
Issue 6...Hand colouring in photoshop
and the list goes on

Hope this helps P.U

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Prescysol was covered in two issues. In the December 04, issue number 41. Les compairs it with Pyro and Rodinal. Also in that issue is an interview titled childs Play, featuring the very beautiful photographs of Cheryl Jacobs(six pages) Lee Frost on location. The Portfolio of Seamus Ryan(bloody hell Seamus, put some weight on since that photo!) Printers art features the gone digital Julien Busselle, whos work I much admire. Trever Crone and Tom Richardson. Hand colouring by Tony Worobiec. I have to stop here, this issue is superb.

Then...In February 05 issue number 43, Les tests the Prescysol using stand development. In this issue we have the work of lee Miller, Lee Frost again. Some reportage in Aus. The Portfolio of Gerry Johansson, which is very nice...www.gerryjohansson.com Tom Richardson, whos web site is well worth the visit, in the Printers Art again, and a peep in to David Herrods Darkroom. All good stuff.

As an aside...

Issue 2...Infrared goes digital
Issue 3...digital conversion from colour to black and white.
issue 4...dodge and burn the digital way
Issue 5...creating grain and atmosphere the digital way
Issue 6...Hand colouring in photoshop
and the list goes on

Hope this helps P.U

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Just to add to the above, the web site of Gerry Johansson is poor and does not reflect his work in the magazine. Tom Richardsons work can be found here;

http://www.tomrichardsonphotography.co.uk/index.html

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Old 02-25-2008, 02:27 PM   #557 (permalink)
 
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My copy of issue #82 arrived in the mail today, a mere 19 days late, with two big, ugly crease marks over the cover.

If the delay continues to increase like this, I won't be getting the October issue before Christmas...
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Old 02-25-2008, 05:19 PM   #558 (permalink)
 
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Well my march issue arrived on time. I ignored the digi slr review and the digi techneque bits. So what got my goat? The image criteque, what a fassile waste of time and effort, if this exercise were to take place in a real time situation where the image could be disscussed and oppion explored then those takeing part may well find it an enjoyable and informative experiance, as it was, it was two oppinions pontificated for the edification of the readers. It was frightenly reminisent of the AP I ceased buying many years ago.

David you complain how hard you work and we do not appreciate your efforts, I work hard and am unappreciated, I am however paid, when effort = pay cheque at the end of the month we are all even and start again for the next. Your pay cheque depends on me and people like me buying the magazine.
Now much as I enjoy B&W mag dropping throught he door every month it is a periferal part of my hobby, far more important to me is that I continue to buy paper and film from people like Ilford photo and Kentmere so that they remain viable.
David you may as editor take the magazine in the direction you see fit, if that is a direction I do not like, there will come a time when I will cancel my direct debit subscription, if you can persuade others to buy it in my stead then you will be sucsessful and I will be able to spend a couple of boxes of paper longer in the darkroom, we are both happy, if however you cannot persuade others to buy in my stead B&W photography will of lost a valued resorse and you will be unemployed, no one will be happy but I will still be able to spend a couple of boxes of paper longer in the darkroom. My point being when you are selling a commodity the customer is always right even when he is wrong.
I am still contemplateing my actions but do not like the AP flavour of the current issue.



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Old 02-25-2008, 05:39 PM   #559 (permalink)
 
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Thanks Stoo for the comprehensive guide about the two issues pertaining to Prescysol. I am a newcomer to B&W, discovering its availability via another helpful post saying it was in WH Smith, a branch of which doesn't exist in my small town. Anyway as a reply to your aside it looks as if the digi content of early issues at least matches if not exceeds that of the 3 recent issues I have been able to get and enjoy when I can get to the big metropolis - called Northampton.

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Old 02-26-2008, 12:35 PM   #560 (permalink)
 
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I have to say that the February issue was much, much better than the last one I bought. I picked it up today - it's the first issue of a mainstream photography magazine that's really interested me in a long time. Well done David C!
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