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 Originally Posted by donbga  So going by this statement a photo gravure isn't a photograph ... A photogravure is NOT a photograph. It's an etching made from a photographic negative onto either a copper or photo-polymer plate, treated with acid or water respectively, then inked with a roller, wiped with a tarletan and run through an intaglio press. The ink is not sprayed, and is the kind of printer's ink that will last as long or longer than the paper it's printed on. I believe it was first accomplished in the mid 1850's.
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I didn't have a subscription to the printed version but I do have a subscription to LensWork Extended. I am going to let my subscription lapse because I can't take Brook's Jensen's long commentaries any longer. He seems like a nice guy but he just keeps talking endlessly as though he simplyy loves to hear himself talk and it has become very irritating to me. I could just turn of the audio but then I would wonder if I missed something important imbedded in them and I don't see much point in subscribing if I don't listen to the audio portions. I wish Brooks would learn to edit his commentary more tightly and let other people do interviews and commentary sometimes. I wrote Brooks about this. Ironically, he sent me an incredibly long response that tried to convince me that he wasn't too wordy!
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Originally Posted by ZoneIII I didn't have a subscription to the printed version but I do have a subscription to LensWork Extended. I am going to let my subscription lapse because I can't take Brook's Jensen's long commentaries any longer. He seems like a nice guy but he just keeps talking endlessly as though he simplyy loves to hear himself talk and it has become very irritating to me. I could just turn of the audio but then I would wonder if I missed something important imbedded in them and I don't see much point in subscribing if I don't listen to the audio portions. I wish Brooks would learn to edit his commentary more tightly and let other people do interviews and commentary sometimes. I wrote Brooks about this. Ironically, he sent me an incredibly long response that tried to convince me that he wasn't too wordy! Although I understand the sentiment, I think we should encourage people who want to hear themselves talk (about photography). Just listen to us here! I just subscribed to Lenswork Extended for the first time, including all of the back issues. I think it is really well done. I have not seen an electronic or print magazine that contributes as much to black and white photography as this does. Also, the CD is the "extended" version and you can ignore the audio. I would rather he excluded digital but I can still learn from the composition aspect of it. This month he had a lengthy interview with a photographer in Santa Fe and a tour of his home darkroom. Where else would we get that?
Most photography magazines can be digested in 3 minutes of browsing and then discarded but Lenswork is really a load compared to that. I enjoy looking at all of the portfolios on my 19 inch monitor. They make me want to improve my photography and inspire me to see things in new ways.
In terms of alternatives, Photo Techniques is declining, Outdoor Photographer is gone (from analog), Camera & Darkroom is extinct, Black and White is ok but expensive here in the US.
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Originally Posted by ZoneIII I wrote Brooks about this. Ironically, he sent me an incredibly long response that tried to convince me that he wasn't too wordy! Robert,
Did you give any consideration to my invitation in our email exchange that you might want to write some of your thoughts for an article in LensWork? As I said in my email, we receive hundreds of portfolio submissions every year but typically only a couple article submissions per year.
Some of the heavy-handed "Brooks Jensen Show" you refer to is that we receive so little in the way of text -- let alone publishable text -- that it means either I do the Editor's Comments and interviews or we convert LensWork to an "images only" publication without text. By the way, you never did respond to my question about your preferences about this. Which would you rather see -- LensWork without any text, or LensWork with at least my writing -- and Bill Jay's EndNotes?
Quite simply, we'd love to have lots of good writing to include in LensWork, but we can only select for publication from the submissions we receive. Consider this a gentle reminder that publishers -- all publishers -- are always looking for good content to add to their publications. After all, it's not our job to prevent good material from finding a wider audience!
Brooks
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Thank you Brooks. It is always a great pleasure that you take the time to respond to comments regarding your publication.
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Thank you Brooks. It is always a great pleasure that you take the time to respond to comments regarding your publication.
No doubt! Sometimes I wonder why any business would come to APUG to get beat up 
"I've said it for years—we have got to think of more numbers!"
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Originally Posted by blaze-on FOCUS because of paper and print quality upgrade, though I still won't buy it, or any. Focus is alright but the editor and I have rather extreme political incompatibilities (played out in the various threads he starts in LFinfo's lounge), to the extent that I'm not willing to buy the magazine and lend him even a modicum of financial support.
The universe is a haunted house. -Coil
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Originally Posted by thebanana No doubt! Sometimes I wonder why any business would come to APUG to get beat up Which says so much to all of us as to why K has never visited here.
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Speaking of Lenswork Extended
When I got my last issue of Lenswork, if I recall correctly, it came with a copy of Lenswork Extended. I've never considered buying this because the last thing I want to do is spend more time in from of a computer. I was surprised to see that it included a "darkroom tour" with Huntington Witherill that starts out with footage of a darkroom. Unfortunately, the tour content ends up consisting of a look at outdated computer equipment. so much for truth in advertising.
I also skipped the podcast included with the CD - I've listened to audio downloaded from the Lenswork website and found it to be short and not at all inspiring. The Candid Frame podcasts are infinitely better; Lenswork should be able to do at least as good a job.
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Originally Posted by copake_ham Which says so much to all of us as to why K has never visited here. Interesting, George. Earlier in this thread you were the one doing the beating.
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