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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainecoonmaniac View Post
    I want and recommend this flash unit.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=S7FmznnVTvQ
    Haha yea but did he get the shot??? Really, they didn't show the photo with lightning in it??


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    Avoid Normans

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    There's a huge difference between the cheepy Speedos (Speedotron) and the professional Broncolor gear, and the top of the line Profoto gear. Both in functionality, light quality, and of course PRICE.
    Speedotrons aren't that bad. I've assisted shoots with the Brown line and Black line Speedotrons. They're bluish compared to Broncolors.

    The worst are Normans. They're just plain dangerous. I've seen their packs blow up and arched some plugs. I'm lucky while assisting photogs using them that I didn't shart my pants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainecoonmaniac View Post

    The worst are Normans. They're just plain dangerous. I've seen their packs blow up and arched some plugs. I'm lucky while assisting photogs using them that I didn't shart my pants.
    Not if you use correct procedures. I'll admit the older 900 series may not have as many safety features built in but I have a wide range of packs and the smaller DC/portables. (newer models are much better)

    Cables will arc if you dont follow the correct sequence or try to adjust power settings at the wrong times

    I have heard they referred to as "the widow maker"

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucemuir View Post
    Not if you use correct procedures. I'll admit the older 900 series may not have as many safety features built in but I have a wide range of packs and the smaller DC/portables. (newer models are much better)

    Cables will arc if you dont follow the correct sequence or try to adjust power settings at the wrong times

    I have heard they referred to as "the widow maker"
    I prefer to call them underwear stainers
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    They can sound like a canon going off at times

    Can't recall a speedo blackline arcing like that but wouldn't be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucemuir View Post
    Not if you use correct procedures. I'll admit the older 900 series may not have as many safety features built in but I have a wide range of packs and the smaller DC/portables. (newer models are much better)

    Cables will arc if you dont follow the correct sequence or try to adjust power settings at the wrong times

    I have heard they referred to as "the widow maker"
    Haha OR they could make them so you don't have to follow ANY procedure as just shoot and not worry about it, that's why I use the profoto's I can up or down the power settings and it will auto dump if it needs to, the older ones wouldn't auto-dump but you could still do it without concern for your life (or your pants).

    Now I know to stay away from Normans...


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    Hey guys, before you throw out different lighting systems, perhaps we should find out what kind of budget the OP is looking for?

    There's a huge difference between the cheepy Speedos (Speedotron) and the professional Broncolor gear, and the top of the line Profoto gear. Both in functionality, light quality, and of course PRICE.

    So, what's your budget? Personally I'm stubborn and only go for the best stuff if possible (So I use Profoto only) but Broncolor are really nice if you can fit it in your budget.

    I really don't like monolights, they aren't upgradeable unlike other systems with a pack so when you upgrade your gear you can still use the old heads with the new gear.

    So OP what's your budget?
    I agree with you about monolights although I have never used them. They are expensive and need expensive light stands to hold all the weight of the monolights. With a power block you just plug your lights into it and the block into an electrical receptacle. With monolights you have to plug each monolight into a receptacle and if you are using 3 or 4 lights it can be difficult in someone's house unless of course you bring an extension cord with enough places to plug in all your lights.

    I recommended Novatrons because you can pick up a used 3 light set for less than $500.00 with case, stands and umbrellas. If you are patient you may even get a set for below $400.00. Now that's cheap! The umbrellas are nice because they both reflect or you can shoot through them. I like umbrellas because they are a lot more compact for shooting in some one's living room than big soft boxes.

    I am an amateur and just do this for fun so I have to keep my budget low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Gales View Post
    I recommended Novatrons because you can pick up a used 3 light set for less than $500.00 with case, stands and umbrellas. If you are patient you may even get a set for below $400.00.
    Yes, if you're lucky enough to live in the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polyglot View Post
    Yes, if you're lucky enough to live in the USA.
    well even with shipping if you bought one and had it shipped, it would still only be $1,000 or something, that's a heck of a lot cheaper than...anything I have for lighting ... even my softbox's are in the $400 and up range haha. However I was making money then, now I'm broke and poor and no cash coming in, hence why I bitch and baulk at the price of things I want now like the toyo45A lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by polyglot View Post
    Yes, if you're lucky enough to live in the USA.
    Yeah, I missed that the OP lives in the Netherlands.

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