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    Print Exchange Deadbeats

    So after some PMs with the other Print Exchange Organizers Jeremy Moore, Carl Radford and PhotoPete, we have 14 deadbeats (2 repeat offenders) who owe 29 people prints.

    So far there has been a deadbeat in every round of every print exchange, except Round 6 Group Print Exchange (since no one has PMed Jeremy yet).

    You know who you are, so get printing and honour your committments!

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    how sad.

    And then some wonder why more people don't get involved!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gr82bart
    So after some PMs with the other Print Exchange Organizers Jeremy Moore, Carl Radford and PhotoPete, we have 14 deadbeats (2 repeat offenders) who owe 29 people prints.

    So far there has been a deadbeat in every round of every print exchange, except Round 6 Group Print Exchange (since no one has PMed Jeremy yet).

    You know who you are, so get printing and honour your committments!

    Regards, Art.
    I think you should out the individuals publically if they are repeat offenders!
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    What about a private blacklist maintained by the print exchange coordinators? You could ask for a reason from the non-contributing participant which is then put to a poll for the people who were participating in the exchange. If a certain percentage decide that the reason is not acceptable the non-contributing participant could be added to the blacklist and excluded for a certain number of months/years from taking part in print exchanges. I know I would be disappointed if I put the effort into making a print for an exchange and didn't receive one in return however there will be cases where the reason is legitimate (eg cyclones are wreaking havoc here at the moment).

    Just a thought,
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    Art,

    I'm on your list of "deadbeats". I owe a print. I have communicated with my creditor and we have an arrangement.

    You seem to have a fixation on this "deadbeat" thing, so why don't you quit beating around the bush, print the list, get it out of your system and move on? Otherwise, drop it.

    cheers

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    While I agree there maybe legitimate problems for some people, I think repeat offenders should at least be known to the exchange coordinators.
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    Albuquerque NM has just passed legislation that will post DWI offenders in the Sunday paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ras351
    What about a private blacklist maintained by the print exchange coordinators?
    That's what we have.
    You could ask for a reason from the non-contributing participant which is then put to a poll for the people who were participating in the exchange.
    It's up to the individual organizers how they want to handle daedbeats. If I get a PM, I'll send a PM to the person concerned. Most say they will send their print and do, but a small few eventually don't respond.

    Remember these PMs are sent long after the due date and only after PMs have been sent by the recipients or organizers. Many are active posters though - one even asked for donations of darkroom equipment and materials.

    A few have left APUG permanently. One in the Blind Exchange, where I felt bad for the jilted recipient, whom I recruited to participate, I sent him a print personally.

    I'm not into more work for the organizers with the poll thing. We're volunteers as it is and people should honour their committments like adults or PM the organizer if they can't. If the person asked gives a reason, fine, but when they don't respond, that's another matter.

    I know I would be disappointed if I put the effort into making a print for an exchange and didn't receive one in return however there will be cases where the reason is legitimate.
    There are maybe two people that I would put into the category of 'deadbeat waiver', the rest should just stop procrastinating, get printing and send their print(s).

    People on the deadbeat list will not be allowed to particpate in any print exchange, by agreement of all the print exchange organizers.

    We may want to extend that to any member organized function?

    Regards, Art.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Brewer
    I think repeat offenders should at least be known to the exchange coordinators.
    They are.

    This private blacklist only names those that we are told of. If we aren't told of anyone, they are not on our list.

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    Make that 15 deadbeats now, owing 32 prints. I just got another PM.

    Regards, Art.
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