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    On my rolleicord it uses a sproket to run some of the operations in the camera like the counter and it works by the sprocket running against the film. It puts marks all the was down the side of the frame.

    The only problem that i see with running non perferation film through the leica is that the film will have to run on top of the sprockets instead of in the sprockets and will not allow the film completely flat over the film
    Plain because of the extra bend it has make.

    Even saying that i think it will work.

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    I was sure Leicas didn't have the teethed reel (how do you call this?). Anyhow, I checked my Leicas and I see no real problems except a possible spacing issue.
    One day I'll try it and let you guys know...

    Thanks for the conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NB23 View Post
    I have no idea what you are talking about.
    There's an insane amount of great out of production film out there that I've almost cried over for not being able to use it simply because it was not peforated. Think of kodak IR, tech pan, konica IR and even APX100 that's getting hard to find these days.

    Leicas are cameras that I put through regular use. If I can use non-perforated film in it, it will then reveal itself as an even more capable tool.
    What don't you understand "Rolls Royce" or "Diesel" ?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NB23 View Post
    I have no idea what you are talking about.
    There's an insane amount of great out of production film out there that I've almost cried over for not being able to use it simply because it was not peforated. Think of kodak IR, tech pan, konica IR and even APX100 that's getting hard to find these days.

    Leicas are cameras that I put through regular use. If I can use non-perforated film in it, it will then reveal itself as an even more capable tool.
    I think I understand your confusion, you don't actually mean unperforated at all. You mean unspooled ie not in a film cassette and available in bulk loads.

    All those films you list were available as perforated 35mm film in cassettes, but what you mean is the ability to put bulk film into a cassette and cut a leader. That can be done with any 35mm camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NB23 View Post
    One day I'll try it and let you guys know...
    I have the contact details of a good Leica repair man.......

    Only kidding!

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjiboy View Post
    What don't you understand "Rolls Royce" or "Diesel" ?.
    You plan on filling your Rolls with Diesel? Now that would be a ridiculous thing to do.
    In hopes to divert you from this ridiculous idea, I suggest that you use some exotic films that are nowadays only available in the unperfored version and shoot them in a camera that will allow you to do so: a Leica.

    But do you own one?
    Last edited by NB23; 01-20-2012 at 09:50 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjbecker View Post
    On my rolleicord it uses a sproket to run some of the operations in the camera like the counter and it works by the sprocket running against the film. It puts marks all the was down the side of the frame.

    The only problem that i see with running non perferation film through the leica is that the film will have to run on top of the sprockets instead of in the sprockets and will not allow the film completely flat over the film
    Plain because of the extra bend it has make.

    Even saying that i think it will work.
    This is a good reply.
    I believe the film should be absolutely flat because it runs under the plate against the flat rails, regardless of the drivetrain.

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    A camera can use non-perforated film if the teeth mechanism does not connected with shutter, and film feed mechanism does not rely on the teeth. This probably gets rid of 99.99% 35mm cameras ever manufactured.

    Some medium format camera, with custom made 35mm adapter, can use non-perforated film. I have a Pentax 6x7 camera that is perfect for this purpose. It produces great 35mm panoramic images.

    I think Kodak EIR film is no longer available in 100' perforated bulk rolls but is available in a wide sized rolls. It can be sliced to fit into 35mm film cartridges. Past few years people has been sliced it to fit medium format cameras but not 35mm cameras due to perforation requirements of most 35mm cameras.

    Some older film (828?) does not have perforations but 1) may need backing paper; 2) may need to use an old camera not quite capable.

    Leica is a great photographic tool, not just a decorative piece. If Leica can (safely) use non-perforated 35mm film, I would like to try it out. I have some 35mm non-perforated film sitting idle in the storage. But I need to check if 35mm non-perforated color film can be processed through the machine.
    Last edited by bwfans; 01-20-2012 at 10:33 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Why is all that unperforated 35mm film out there? What is it made/used for?

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    Many 35mm, 46mm, and 70mm non-perforated film were made for special long roll cameras, like those used in school portrait business. Hundreds exposures can be shot in one roll before sending 100ft rolls to some specialty portrait lab to process.

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