The only way to see your Leica as investment is if you buy a vestment with a pocket big enough to hold it.
I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.
I would only hope that those who keep saving their money and never spending it on anything for fun would realize that they can't take it with them. I once heard a pastor say that in the many hundreds of funerals he had attended he never once saw an armored car following the hearse!
If you don't want to stand behind our troops, please feel free to stand in front of them.
I agree on the basis that productivity is the prime reason to buy a camera.
Originally Posted by cliveh
To the OP, a camera that makes the pictures is worth more than one sat in a drawer, whatever the purchase price of each. Except every Leica body or lens I have ever bought (excluding a relatively recent full frame body that cannot be mentioned on APUG for reasons that go against the 'prime directive'), is now worth considerably more than I bought it for (ten lenses, currently three film bodies). Yet they are not investments, they are to use, and so have to take the potential abuse. So an 'investment' would be something to put out of the way of risk as much as possible, otherwise trying to use it is likely compromise the pictures made by being too careful.
I shoot Leica and have bought and sold a few lenses. I have always profited, even if I paid "normal" used price when buying. I know at least one lens I owned that was worth $1100 in 2006 is now going for well over $2000. So yeah, if you choose lenses carefully, they will generally all appreciate. Bodies, not so much.
And I can't think of a time when Leica lens values went down rather than up.
I have zero debt. Friends and acquaintances are very confused about how I manage to be semi-retired at 46 with a thirty foot boat. Some of it was just plain good luck, but it was important that I was in a mental and financial position to allow that luck to happen, and then be able to take advantage of it. Everything you have that you don't own, owns you. I learned that some time ago.
Originally Posted by Jim Jones
All my camera gear has been an investment, but the investment is realized by the cash flow created by my use of the camera. There are about a zillion better investments than capitol appreciation on a camera. Burying money in a hole is among them.
That's just, like, my opinion, man...
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A very wise and true statement.
Originally Posted by JBrunner
“The contemplation of things as they are, without error or confusion, without substitution or imposture, is in itself a nobler thing than a whole harvest of invention”
Is the Leica an "Investment?"
+1 heck +10
Originally Posted by JBrunner
Want to pass along some of that luck? I'm ready to receive it, I really am, tell me where to go and what to do and I'll do it
Also, a Leica is just like a leaky boat, too expensive and not worth the effort in labor... Hehe
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My mother was born in 1938, my aunt in 1940 and my other aunt in 1942. After which, my grand-father went volunteer in WWII in 1943 (he was 32 and with three children, never to be called) to defend the fatherland from the incoming invasion by the bloody foreigner. Apparently somebody with a lot of belly and not many hair told him we would have repelled the invader on the shores of Sicily*.
Originally Posted by pbromaghin
The lesson I can derive from this is that if only rational people made children, the world would be inhabited by now
* He told me later that on southern Sicily where he was sent the defence was constituted by an average machine-gun every 11 km of coast. Not joking.
My outlook on investing, and business in general, is always to do a little better tomorrow than I did today. In business, I try to increase my inventory and sales by 5% a month. It's not at all easy, I don't have a lot of experience being in business for myself, but after three years of steadily increasing sales, I have learned a lot. Last year I passed the point where my business income passed what I get from my regular job. I find that now I have money, but I rarely have any free time or a day off.
In the next year I will incorporate, and if sales improve as much as they hope, I will quit my job, and work for myself. I recently branched out into a new field of goods, and the results were better than expected. Unfortunately, I don't have enough time to pursue the new goods until I hire a helper to do some of my current work.
When I was young, I didn't have a good idea about how investments worked. It seemed like black magic to me. I discovered that investing was simply buying low and selling high. I eventually found a niche in which I could invest in something I understood and enjoyed. I was surprised that I could make money at it.
It is nice to see business and investments grow. It is like building a house, or creating a painting. It is fun to try other ideas and see the results, and even more fun when the ideas are successful. I now have to become a better time manager.
I'm sure many will disagree, but in the 30's and 40's, if you were insistent on shooting the 35mm films of the day, a Leica would be the only way to go.. However, nowadays, a Leica is more jewelry than actual tool. Just my opinion.