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    Quote Originally Posted by wharris View Post
    Now i feel dumb lol.. why do they call it 120 film then lol.. and I went for the trade.. I still have my mamiya 645 AF so im good =) heres a few photos that pushed me over the edge on the trade.. nothing special but sharp as hell when it comes to the 50 being wide open =)
    Heck if I know. There have been many film formats in the days of past, 127, 120, 620, 135, etc.
    135 is also called 35mm, and a full frame measures 24 x 36 mm, which also doesn't make sense.

    I'm glad you have a new camera you like. I enjoy my Leica a lot too, and if you ever want to see what the lenses are capable of, put the camera on a tripod and make some exposures, and enlarge them big. Very good lenses. Have fun!
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    [QUOTE=wharris;1536356]Now i feel dumb lol.. why do they call it 120 film then lol.. and I went for the trade.. I still have my mamiya 645 AF so im good =) heres a few photos that pushed me over the edge on the trade.. nothing special but sharp as hell when it comes to the 50 being wide open =)/QUOTE]

    About the 120 roll film, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_format and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/120_film
    The "120" designation appears to be a kind of serial number, not a size in itself.

    And congratulations on your Leica + lens: you'll enjoy it!
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    Congrats on making a decision! Sometimes that's the hardest part, figuring out who in the litter next t'a go
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson View Post
    Heck if I know. There have been many film formats in the days of past, 127, 120, 620, 135, etc.
    135 is also called 35mm, and a full frame measures 24 x 36 mm, which also doesn't make sense.
    I think 35mm film is actually 35mm wide, measuring edge to edge. Remember the original 'full frame' was for motion picture, which runs the film through vertically, so the frame there wasn't even 24x36mm. Wiki has many more details than this I'm sure.

    Have fun with the camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Gray View Post
    I think 35mm film is actually 35mm wide, measuring edge to edge. Remember the original 'full frame' was for motion picture, which runs the film through vertically, so the frame there wasn't even 24x36mm. Wiki has many more details than this I'm sure.

    Have fun with the camera.
    Perhaps you're right. And if you are, it just illustrates how inconsistent the format naming is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Gray View Post
    I think 35mm film is actually 35mm wide, measuring edge to edge. Remember the original 'full frame' was for motion picture, which runs the film through vertically, so the frame there wasn't even 24x36mm. Wiki has many more details than this I'm sure.

    Have fun with the camera.
    The term 135 was introduced by Kodak in 1934 as a designation for the cassette for 35 mm film, specifically for still photography.
    The film itself is 35 mm wide (and several meters long).
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    The image size on 35 mm film is 24 mm wide (between the perforations) and 36 mm long in normal film photography cameras.
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    Hence: the common "full-frame" image size of 24×36 mm, used for d*****l cameras.
    Old half-frame cameras like the Olympus Pen (1960's) use 24 x 18 mm on 135 film, thus making 72 images on a 135 film.
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    See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/135_film
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheToadMen View Post
    Hence: the common "full-frame" image size of 24×36 mm, used for d*****l cameras.
    Hahah yeah. I wasn't implying that the phrase full-frame didn't mean 24x36mm. It most certainly does. I was clumsily trying to point out that 35mm film was originally used for cinema, where the frame size wasn't even 24x36mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Gray View Post
    Hahah yeah. I wasn't implying that the phrase full-frame didn't mean 24x36mm. It most certainly does. I was clumsily trying to point out that 35mm film was originally used for cinema, where the frame size wasn't even 24x36mm.
    Hi Tim,
    I wasn't trying to correct you, or anything. Sorry if I made that impression.
    And your quite right about the cinema use of 35 mm film. Same film but an other orientation: vertical instead of horizontal.
    Wasn't it Oscar Barnack who took cinema film (35 mm) back in 1913-1914 and used it to make a smaller and lighter cameras? A concept we still use after 100 years.
    Now I that think of it, shouldn't 2013 be an Oscar Barnack Year? Or at least an Oscar Barnack Day?
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    Don't tell me I missed it. Or are we waiting for 1914?
    "Have fun and catch that light beam!"
    Bert from Holland
    my blog: http://thetoadmen.blogspot.nl
    my Linkedin pinhole group: http://tinyurl.com/pinholegroup


    * I'm an analogue enthusiast, trying not to fall into the digital abyss.
    * My favorite cameras: Hasselblad SWC, Leica SL, Leica M7, Russian FKD 18x24, Bronica SQ-B and RF645, Rolleiflex T2, Nikon F4s, Agfa Clack and my pinhole cameras

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