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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmas View Post
    only Mr N Sweeny will have engineering details

    If you have a scrap Kiev you could make a contax to LTM adapter easier than a heliciod/rangefinder cam.

    Only the very late Kievs came with a Helious but they are so homely there is little demand.

    They do perform well compared with a good J8.

    The Helious seems to be a type IV summicron clone i.e. a simplified for production double Gauss
    I mentioned that above in post #3, I'm starting to think it might be the better route.

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    Yes I detected you were aware.

    Lots of parts Kievs are complete apart from the mount so someone is doing it: buying one is/would be simpler than machining.

    For a while Helious were available NOS really cheap. Probably all gone now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmas View Post
    Yes I detected you were aware.

    Lots of parts Kievs are complete apart from the mount so someone is doing it: buying one is/would be simpler than machining.

    For a while Helious were available NOS really cheap. Probably all gone now.
    There are still H-103s out there for reasonable prices, quite a bit less that J-8s in equal condition anyway. I think Fedka wants about 40 USD for one.
    The Kiev mount conversion would still entail a fair bit of machining to connect it to an LTM body; I can cut 26 TPI threads, but do not have facilities to cut metric threads. I couldn't make some dremel and epoxy kluge anyway, I'd wince every time I saw it and besides my friends would probably euthanise me if I did.
    The Contax/LTM adapter would let me play with other lenses, too.
    Last edited by E. von Hoegh; 10-24-2013 at 08:59 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E. von Hoegh View Post
    Thanks, I saw that. I'm sure my German genes would turn against me if I butchered one of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-Leitz-...item3a859b29e2 to mount a Soviet lens on a Japanese camera!!

    I have a Sonnar (J-8) and while I really like the Sonnar look, I was thinking a cheap and good double Gauss might be nice to have as well. The Helios and Industar ( to cannibalise) are cheap enough, but will it work??. Another uption is to buy a scrap Kiev for the focussing mount and make an adapter. I think there is enough metal in the mount of a J8 to bore it out to fit the Helios' optics capsule, but I've yet to find dimensioned drawings of the lenses. The adapter might be the best bet, just build one, once. I might even get lucky and find a scrap Kiev with a good Helios on it!
    Nope. Not in a mid-70s J-8 anyway. So it's a junker Kiev for the mount and machining an adapter; not at all a bad idea as I now have two Kievs which work like a charm but could conceivably need spares in a few decades.

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    Holy Cow Batman

    Thread resurrection!

    Robin

    PS how much are the FSU 'people' selling the Kiev based adapters for?

    Anomouse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmas View Post
    Holy Cow Batman

    Thread resurrection!

    Robin

    PS how much are the FSU 'people' selling the Kiev based adapters for?

    Anomouse
    Too much. I can make one for the cost of a junk Kiev(four for 16 USD at last check, plus shipping of course) and a few hours of fun.
    I took a chance on a '69 K4 with an '81 Helios, 80 USD shipped. The body is very clean, the meter works accurately, the Helios was hazed (of course);
    I took the top casting, filmplane casting, and front trim off - a bit of diagnostic lubrication and I have a very well functioning camera. Ribbons look like new.
    I'm tempted to keep buying these things, just so I get a bad one and know that not everyone is full of @rap.

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    Hi

    A 69 should still be a nice camera an 82 will be a bit rougher.

    The problem cameras are those that have been subject to 'maintenance' or Russian winter condensation.

    A 49-55 just same as ContaxII but with different chrome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmas View Post
    Hi

    A 69 should still be a nice camera an 82 will be a bit rougher.

    The problem cameras are those that have been subject to 'maintenance' or Russian winter condensation.

    A 49-55 just same as ContaxII but with different chrome.
    I have a chance at a nice looking '53 Kiev III/J-8 for what seems a fair price. But what I really should get is a J-9, because I want a good working RF outfit of 35-50-85 and two bodies. As for the '69 being a nice camera, it's more than nice - and I've had ur-Contaxen. What would a good Kiev go for if it said anything other than "Made in USSR" on the shoe?

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