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    Quote Originally Posted by Juba
    Leica and digital technology sounds absurd,
    I thought the same thing when I heard that Porsche was building an SUV. I wonder how they are doing with that?
    That is called grain. It is supposed to be there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NikoSperi
    Yes, it looks like Leica is just starting the painful process that Ilford seems to be coming out of.
    What have you heard about Ilford?
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    Andre,
    Even in a digital M, the best aspects of the Leica, those which separate it from any other rangerfinder on the market, i.e., its superb range/viewfinder, its quiet shutter, its phenomenal lenses will all survive and be a market differentiator. 95% of world is going digital. You don't have to, but let's acknowledge the reality of that. There must be a digital rangefinder Leica M or there will be no Leica, simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Duffy
    95% of world is going digital. You don't have to, but let's acknowledge the reality of that. There must be a digital rangefinder Leica M or there will be no Leica, simple as that.
    Take care,
    Tom
    Tom as a manufacture of LF camera parts, that is working my butt off, all the time, I have to differ with your assesment of the situation, there are actually several areas of the world that digital sales are lagging and film camera sales are gaining again. Leica, does indeed need to change somethings, and get off the high horse that has maintained them over the last few decades, but I don't agree that the answer is digital, digital is a shallow solution to a long term problem that they have had..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woolliscroft
    Especially as the SLR hybrid is going to have a less than full frame sensor with all the implications that has for wide angle users like me.

    David.
    David,
    I think this digital back is a useful product for those with a significant investment in Leica R lenses. All other things being equal, if I needed a digital camera I'd buy a Canon.

    Leica isn't alone in its inability to use a full frame sensor. There is precisely one dslr with a full frame sensor, the $8,000 Canon. Parenthetically, Popular Photography had declared this month that it slightly edges out 100 speed color negative film. Seems to me to be a good arguement to buy a $300 film camera, instead.
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    I don't know much about digital cameras but my friend has one and it shoots laser beams and infra red rays and has buttons that do all kinds of awesomely way cool stuff. I would have thought that quaint notions like a superb range/viewfinder, a quiet shutter, and phenomenal lenses would be passe to today's virtual photographers. Quality fit and construction doesn't go very far when a camera's technology is going to be outmoded in several months anyway. OTOH, You can slap a Leica badge on a Ham Sandwich and triple the price.
    That is called grain. It is supposed to be there.
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    "Seems to me to be a good arguement to buy a $300 film camera, instead."


    I fully agree Tom, my F100 cost me 1300 euros + 2000 euros of lenses covering a vast range of focal lengths, for that price I could get an M7+ a 50mm.
    Is the F100 a bad camera? Are Nikkors bad lenses?
    No, the F100 is a great camera and the Nikkors are excellent, therefore, is the quiet shutter, the lovely optics and superb craftmanship, enough to justify such a big gap in price?
    Do really a Leica serve me well if I want to shoot some action photography?

    Leica is overpriced!

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juba
    Is the F100 a bad camera? Are Nikkors bad lenses?
    No and no.

    Quote Originally Posted by Juba
    No, the F100 is a great camera and the Nikkors are excellent, therefore, is the quiet shutter, the lovely optics and superb craftmanship, enough to justify such a big gap in price?
    Yes, for me it was.

    Quote Originally Posted by Juba
    Do really a Leica serve me well if I want to shoot some action photography?
    No, for that I borrow my wife's 80-200mm zoom and mount it on my $300 SLR. I'm always amazed how good modern autofocus is. But a modern SLR is not the best "people" camera; a Leica M is...
    Take care,
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    "There is precisely one dslr with a full frame sensor, the $8,000 Canon."

    Unless, of course, you don't count the Kodak SLR-n or SLR-c which both have full frame sensors...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Duffy
    Leica isn't alone in its inability to use a full frame sensor. There is precisely one dslr with a full frame sensor, the $8,000 Canon. Parenthetically, Popular Photography had declared this month that it slightly edges out 100 speed color negative film.
    Based upon calculations I have seen:

    Velvia:
    36mm x 150 LP/mm = 5400 line pairs horizontally
    24mm x 150 LP/mm = 3600 line pairs vertically.

    This represents a total of 5400 x 3600 = 19,440,000 pixels.

    Still a lot more than all the DSLR's out there.
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